I am a front loader only person, they always clean better. You really feel that? I was totally unhappy with my last front loader. Whirlpool I beleive. It may have just been other things that ticked me off about it, but I never felt it did the job. I like the ease of use of an elivated front loader, but considering how simple the machine I have is now and how powfull it is, I'm happy. It's no beauty contest winner though.... yeah, front loaders are superior, just keep an eye on the gaskets on low level models. Maytag damn near went bankrupt after that Neptune fiasco...Maytag Repairman...lulz... Also, I do believe ///M5 comes from a gigantic family that happens to do anything and everything...probably has a porn star sibling to boot... No, I am just old compared to you. One of three kids, but all rather intelligent but with severe ADS and dealt with it by doing shit and learning. All of us strive to learn, my whole extended family is that way as well. Same...except for the whole extended family portion...spooky...way...way too spooky...