Yeah liking it is a matter or taste, but you have to respect a fast car, no matter how it gets down the track. what is not respected is 4 bangers w/ fart mufflers... Or just some grandma import running 16.4x and talking chit to a LS1 Truck only to get stomped. I agree completely. those bastages gave us a bad rep, specially after F&F came out. But mine is a track car only now, the prodrive spool in my tranny wouldn't allow me to drive it on the street anyway. I never liked the sound of exhaust on it, I've always ran open, currently mine is dumping out behind the driver side slick, or about 20 inches of downpipe after the turbine side exducer. The class I run is proam, I have to run stock dash,doors,factory glass,no wheelie bars,no methanol etc. Basically a street trim car. We are allowed two power adders and unlimited engine mods. I've always felt there was two groups: 1. Us, meaning real/or true performance imports. 2. The Fast & furious group of crap. ghey wings,bodykits,colors, fart cans etc. I have a F.A.S.T. engine management w/ software and communication cable if anyone is interested in a stand alone system. Uses GM style plugs for sensors. So if a car has a body kit it falls under the fast and the furious to you? Or are you saying ppl that rice up their cars with looks and chit exhaust and no real performance upgrades? He's talking about the ridiculous wide body kits and coffee can exhausts and zillions of stickers