SoundSplinter

Sexay! I should hire you to keep all of my asses so fresh and so clean! :ph34r:

Well hot damn, nice job steppin' up to the plate for flakko everyone! Seems like he has plenty of viable options to choose from here and I just wanted to chime in (for anyone else skimming these threads) to note that the RL-p12 should have a minimum of 20 sq inches of port area. That's all, now get to Frankensteining that enclosure!

For an RL-p12 in car, 1.5 - 2.0 cu ft net volume tuned between 28 - 34 Hz. For an RL-p12 in home, 2.0 cu ft net volume tuned betweem 20 - 25 Hz. To understand the relationship between the net volume, port area, length, and tuning frequency, read and re-read the following tutorial by JL Audio: [link] Then once you know the process, use the online calculator at the bottom of the following link to avoid that nasty formula: [link] Feel free to ignore the minimum vent area calculator and go with our recommendation of 20 square inches on the RL-p12. Vent area is simply the cross-sectional (length x width) of a quadrillateral (slot) port opening or (Pi * radius^2) for a round port. Round ports can typically be a little smaller than their slot port counterpart and still provide comparable performance.

You got it ~ added Special 0040

Ja mon, so long as you are a responsible listener that has your amplifier gain set appropriately, and a solid enclosure built within our recommended specifications, the RL-p D4 should take the 1100 watts like a champ no problem.

As I understand it, you are limited on space so you're likely sticking to the sealed alignment -- in which case I would advocate between 0.5 - 0.8 cu ft gross internal volume. If you can fit it, I would opt for the 0.8 cu ft gross.

Could just be a super low note that isn't very audible to begin with (though you should still be able to feel it physically). Alternately, perhaps your box has some leaks in it?

The 10's should be ready a few weeks prior to the 8's, hopefully in early to mid January. Strangely we are out of baskets on those units as well, but at least we have a regular supplier for that part.

OoOo, sorry ///M5 but I have an interested buyer who contacted me last night about this driver. If I don't receive payment by this evening, you're standin' next in line to get a shot at it and I'll fire over a msg with all the details. :ph34r:

Due to unforeseen circumstances, req was unable to ship the driver out on time.

^Bump^ for new Special Offer 0030

> updates please Things are back on track, Ryan in NY should have received the driver yesterday. I again updated the first post in this thread to reflect estimated time slots. A bummer it couldn't make it to AZ for the gathering, please direct all complaints to req! LOL

Thrilled to hear of your satisfaction Mike! After the new year rolls around I'll definitely be adding a page to display your setup in our Customer Install's section (as well as one or two others that I've been meaning to get up there as well). Keep on rockin' and happy holidays!

Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! These damn 8's make me want to pull my

Edit: Thanks to everyone who has participated or shown interest in these deals - if you keep an active eye out, I'm sure there will be another "garage sale" in due time Happy Holidays & New Year!! I hope the culmination of O-5 has brought smiles, laughter, boozin' and bass to all! Things 'round these parts have been great, December has been my second busiest month on record! Yea yea, so how can YOU cash in too? Heh, well I'll tell ya! I have this here back room in my casa (more like an old closet) filled with some refurb'd drivers, cosmetic variances, and old school models that I no longer sell on the website.. I figure now's as good a time as any to unload some of these beasts at heavily discounted rates for the good folk here at SSA. So check back to this thread often, as I will be editing this first post at random will over the next few weeks, whenever I feel like offering up a new deal! First come, first served - and only for members of SSA! All products will come with a 1 year warranty against defects in craftsmanship (warranty does NOT cover customer negligence which includes but is not limited to burnt coils, torn surrounds, & cracked baskets). Regardless of whether or not each deal sells, all offers will expire on January 15th until the next time I feel like havin' a good ol' virtual garage sale Only a few days left to catch these steals - Don't hesitate! Give me your money and I will give you a sexy hunk o' metal, ceramic, and rubber!... SPECIAL OFFER 0010 BRAND NEW RL-p12 Dual 2 Ohm - Never sold / never used / Brand New! - Over 24mm Xmax; 400-1000 watt optimal power range (500 wrms); Full Specs - Tested to be fully functional and meet all new driver specifications, except: - Cosmetic scratches on the sides of the aluminum cone (click for close-up picture) - Optimal Sealed Enclosure: ~ 1.35 cu ft gross internal volume - Optimal Vented Enclosure: 1.5 - 2.0 cu ft net internal volume, tuned between 22 - 34 Hz - Price: $199 + shipping ($40 / 17% savings just for a couple small scratches - I must be crazy!) SPECIAL OFFER 0020 BRAND NEW RL-i12 Dual 4 Ohm Picture of driver face Picture of backside with no boot Profile shot with no boot - Never sold / never used / Brand New! (comes with magnet boot) - Over 19mm Xmax; 200-400 watt optimal power range (300 wrms); Full Specs - Tested to be fully functional and meet all new driver specifications - Optimal Sealed Enclosure: ~ 1.25 cu ft gross internal volume - Vented Enclosure: 1 - 3 cu ft, tuned between 22 - 32 Hz - RARE 1st generation driver! Versatile, low distortion, with beautiful discontinued matte finish - Price: $144 + shipping ($30 less than our RL-i 10" production driver!) SOLD USED RL-p12 Dual 4 Ohm Top View (arrow points to very small scratch on side of cone apx 3mm long and 1mm wide) Back Side (showing some dirt that if you are so inclined, can be cleaned off) - Sent out for testing purposes, saw 5 days of use and works great! Full Specs - 2" peak to peak linear excursion; 500-900 watt optimal power range (500wrms) - Optimal Sealed Enclosure: 1 - 1.25 cu ft net volume - Vented Applications: 1.5 - 2.0 cu ft net volume (tuned 28-34 Hz in car / 20 - 25 Hz in home) - Price: $157 + shipping (Over 34% savings off the new price!) SOLD RECONED RL-i10 Dual 4 Ohm Picture of Driver Face Picture of Driver Profile Picture of Back of Driver - Reconed driver with brand new voicecoil + softparts - Offering 20 mm Xmax, 200-400 watt optimal power range (300 wrms); Full Specs - Featuring a non-logo'd black annodized spun aluminum cone - Meets all New Driver specifications except: - Base of the T-yolk (back side of driver) has some minor blemishes/scratches - Optimal Sealed Enclosure: 0.65 cu ft - Vented Enclosure: 0.85 cu ft net volume, tuned between 22 - 28 Hz - Price: $133 + shipping ($40 / 23% savings over a brand new unit) SOLD BRAND NEW RL-s12 Single 4 Ohm - Never Sold / Never Used / Brand New! Full Specs - 3" peak to peak linear excursion; 1000 - 2000 watt optimal power range (1200 wrms) - Featuring a Variable Density Voicecoil for absolute minimal distortion - Excels in sealed enclosures 2 cu ft net volume or greater - Price: $399 + shipping ($100 / 20% savings!) SOLD BRAND NEW RL-s12 Single 4 Ohm - Well since that other one went so quickly, here's another! - Never Sold / Never Used / Brand New! Full Specs - 3" peak to peak linear excursion; 1000 - 2000 watt optimal power range (1200 wrms) - Featuring a Variable Density Voicecoil for absolute minimal distortion - Excels in sealed enclosures 2 cu ft net volume or greater - Price: $399 + shipping ($100 / 20% savings!) SOLD BRAND NEW Special Edition 8" Single 6 Ohm Top View Closer up on Excursion - The newest step-child in the SoundSplinter family, your chance to try it first! - T/S param's will not be released until the end of the month - rest assured this is a solid driver - 300-500 watt optimal power handling, single 6ohm coil - Very Durable - suitable for sealed, vented, or passive radiator alignments - Price: $80 + shipping (I doubt it will ever be this cheap again!) These deals are available to all SSA members and will be sold on a first come, first served basis (if you have friends who may be interested, tell 'em to join up!). I will not hold any of these specials, the first person to get their payment to me is the winning buyer for a given item. If you are interested, just send me a PM with the Special ID # along with your full shipping address and personal email address before January 15th! You will receive payment information from me shortly thereafter, soon to have a brand spankin' new piece of equipment to massage your ear drums with! Any questions?.. by all means lay 'em on me! Keep an eye out, as I will continue to add new specials at my leisure Most importantly -- keep it real, good times all around!

I'm sure there's hundreds of people that think the {insert subwoofer name here} is better than the RL-p Just like I'm sure there's a couple hundred saints that think the RL-p is the ownage of all From what I've heard (and not directly to mine ear), these SI products aren't half bad. To each their own

Ooo damn, happy daze my friend! Tack on an extra round, will ya?

In fact, both methods will shift resonance - but yes you are correct.

The moving mass on the RL-p12 is around 170g. As for inductance concerns, yes the RL-p's do have a slightly higher inductance than some other comparable products - however for a subwoofer, the amount of inductance that there is will not diminish its performance in its intended range. Inductance becomes of increasing concern for midwoofers and other drivers aimed at producing the higher frequency bandwidth. Since the RL-p is a subwoofer, the performance within its recommended range (< 80 Hz) will not be compromised. I have yet to snag T/S param's off a "used" driver, but I'll try to keep that in mind.. just that any used woofers I have here are in boxes being used!

As you alluded, there are two ways to test drivers: 1) add mass to shift compliance; 2) load in a sealed box to shift compliance. From my technical contact: "We test with praxis, sine-sweep, at 2.83 Volts, and the data is within 2-3% of LMS data taken at 2.83 Volts, except that Praxis uses a more data-points and has a higher order better curve-fit, thus being slightly more repeatable and accurate. The new LEAP5 model is probably most accurate, but is very time-consuming." So in short, we use this method 'cause it's practical!

Thanks for the heads up 60 ~ I dropped a few words.

Yea darn it, my webhost is bein' the uber geh and "running server maintenance" which usually equates to "We don't know what's wrong, but give us an undetermined amount of hours, maybe days, and we'll get it back up for ya only to have it go down again in a couple weeks" The whole site is down (including email!) and if this keeps up much longer I'm switching hosts .. and to add insult to injury I can't even use my custom smilies to emote my frustration!

LOL

Allright guys, sorry for the wait.. you know, holidays and all (the perfect excuse! ). I finally went ahead and ran the graphs on the RL-p12, and I even did ya one better and finished up what will be the public detail page for that specific driver. Tried to hit on as many of the frequently asked questions that I get from people as I could without going totally overboard. Hasn't gone live yet (probably sometime o'er the weekend or maybe even next week), but without further ado... [CHECK IT OUT], and let me know what you think!