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Was using 1200 watts, but I'm moving to a smaller car and I'm going to put this in a box that's just below the min requirements. How many watts would this sub need? 300? 500? And I'm talking RMS watts. Thanks

From what I can see online, the main purpose of external ports is to reach the proper tuning freq when the required port is too large to fit in the enclosure. The enclosure itself will be smaller, but the port will be large on the outside so the space savings is very small if any my situation.

10" in an optimal box will kill a 12" in a box too small Thanks for the quick reply. I'm still not sure I could even fit the 12" small ported through the trunk opening. Cardboard mock-up still leaves me unsure. Going with the 10" will make my life a lot easier anyway. I'd still be able to get to my spare without to much trouble.

Thanks. Its looking like ported is the way to go. Now I just spend 30 minutes in the trunk of my car trying to see if there anyway the small 12" ported box would fit. If possible, is that something I should consider? 10" in optimal ported box or 12" in small ported box??? I'm in the process of getting my blown 12" replaced and am currently debating swapping it out for a 10". Thanks for all the replies.

You mean something like a PVC tube bending outside of the box?

Sorry, its a 2005 Mustang. Very small trunk.

I have room for either one. Amp is an ED Nine.1 (1200 @ 1 ohm). My music preference is rap and I like deep bass and SPL. I'm sure either setup will satisfy my SQ requirements. Car is a 2005 Mustang. Very small trunk. Thank you

Hmm. So I have an Icon I was just about to RMA (my own fault). Should I just wait?

Good information. Thanks to everyone that posted. Now a question about tuning. What kind of difference in output would I get tuning a box to 30hz versus 33hz. Icon 12 is fine for use in this example.

deep bass rap, LOL, that isn't deep There are a lot of rap songs with deep bass. What's deep to you? It's not deep on the musical spectrum, bass itself isn't. Unless you listen to pipe organ music you don't listen to anything deep. So what do you all play that's deep? Sin waves? Why are you asking? Most people don't play stuff that deep. Just curious and trying to figure out what is deep that people actually play if rap isn't deep. It appears almost everyone with a ported box uses an SSF, but if rap isn't that deep what are they playing that requires them to use one.

deep bass rap, LOL, that isn't deep There are a lot of rap songs with deep bass. What's deep to you? It's not deep on the musical spectrum, bass itself isn't. Unless you listen to pipe organ music you don't listen to anything deep. So what do you all play that's deep? Sin waves?

deep bass rap, LOL, that isn't deep There are a lot of rap songs with deep bass. What's deep to you?

Cool. Has anyone used this before? I've only experience with the non-adjustable fmod's and they cut the output down a lot.

Is it possible to tune a box low enough to protect the sub from the damaging fqs? My amp is an older JBL 1200.1 with no built in SSF. I was looking at either an icon 10 or 12. Main problem is I listen to mostly deep bass rap and I don't want to hurt the sub.

Cool, I'm just waiting right now to see if I can pay to trade in my broken Icon for an Xcon. Just waiting to hear back from Aaron.

Oh wow, that's better news than I was expecting. Xcon's can use smaller boxes than Icons. My small trunk thanks you. So what do you recommend as far as my wattage goes. Current amp is a 1200rms, but I'm looking at moving to a 1500d in by the end of the year.

I'm trying to see if I can fit a 12" XCON in my trunk. Are these small, medium, or large enclosure subs? I know the Icon's are meant for relatively small enclosures. Power would be 1200rms if that helps any. Would like ported if it can fit. Have 2-3 cubes to work with.

Thanks for the replies. I didn't realize I had any. I'l have to set up my alerts.

I'd like to pick up a 15" icon. The box would be sealed, but to shallow to mount the sub. I have the room to do inverted. Is that an option? Will it have a negative affect on the subs performance?

Ha, sad that I can't have both. I love lows, I just want to make sure that its loud enough to match my speakers upfront. I may be swapping gears though since I learned about the Icon 15 option. I'm thinking it would allow me to have both, low bass and SPL. Sadly it would have to be sealed to do space limitations, probably no more than 2 cubes.

Trunk is small. Box can't be any taller than 12" so I'm limited to the 10" icon. I love deep bass, but SPL is going to be my number one concern. Ride is a 2005 mustang and I'm going for a DD setup, so I don't want a one note wonder. I'd plan on doing the recommended 1.35 cubes tuned on the lower range of 27-33hz. I'm hoping this would be a loud setup. Hopefully louder than a ED 13av.2 sealed in 1 cube (my previous setup). Height and width of box are 12x33 leaving depth to be whatever it needs to be for the optimal box.

Thanks for the replies. I'll be giving the 10" ported a try. Can anyone recommend a box design given my max dimensions? 15x15x20 should be enough right?

What would the box need to be? My trunk opening sucks so it limits box size. 15x15x22 would be the max dimensions.

thanks for pointing out. I updated the original post.

Icon 12" sealed or a Icon 10" ported? Should have added, I meant in ideal boxes. Also, I would like to tune the box to 15-20hz since my amp does not have an SSF. I've got a blown 12" icon that i'll either fix or swap for a 10" and port. The 12" port box is just to big.