Michael Lone-Wolf Werner

I have a 6" port but told not enough port area, for either sub like 28 or so, vs say 4-5 4" ports not sure if 37 would be enough believe that is what 3 4" ports would be.

I wondered they keep saying for 2400 watts x 1 just to use the Xcon but larger box and power would not the Zcon be a safer bet?

2400 watts At one ohm guess it did not show up on pasting, if Torres is right on size, box gross I should have room for 5.50- about 6.50 maybe 6.64, little room for adjustment but believe this should be enough, but I have not always been right. Thanks

Power Brutus Brz 2400 a least for now got a good price on it. BRX2400.1D 1 x 2400 1 x 1600 1 x 850 N/A 18.68" x 10.31" x 2.52"

D2/D1 Zcon 15" 34.1 / 33.6 Fs 6.65 / 6.74 QMS 0.27 / 0.27 Qes 0.29 / 0.29 Qts 266 / 274 Mms 810 / 810 Sd 67 / 67 Vas 93.2 / 93 Spl 17.74 / 25.2 Bl 29 / 29 mm Xmax 2250w RMS 0.22cuft Displacement Is SSA part of Fi/Ascendant? Just notice it popped up a post.

Area for box max is like 27x25x21 middle might get 26 but already should be plenty big assume little under will work, will use 4 or 5 4" ports guess depends on effects of more port area on sub from what I estimated if right somewhere between 50-62 for port area, tuning preferred for all around sound and output. Not sure how the speaker will react with a little more box assume it should be ok and went with Zcon just because power is little over Xcons RMS and box from site little bigger. Hoping it helps low end, but any suggestions not sure if the Torres Tuning Calculator is correct and unlike when I lived in N California, there not real shops unless I drive 2 hours round trip then again, I do not know there work. A friend said tuning it in area of 31-33 Hz claimed out put might go down with little gain in lower end. I decided to ask before I build the new box and any suggestions would be appreciated. I have not gotten the sub yet and guess little nervous first time I bought a sub based off specs and reviews since no shops in area, so if you have any suggestions please other than my writing is not the best. Sub and it performance is my only goal.

My other amp is in the shop, needed cash to get it out, KICKER ZX2500.1

Sold old box and sub, yea, it was too narrow and top heavy anyways, needed to retune it, but for sub 35 hz worked. I double the port area wall to 1.5" cannot post pictures here or do not know how and guess no big deal. Just needed a more sq box vs. a long box set in and fit better the old one was from Little Accent lot more room in Galant.

Last aero port was beat up for 2 years never had a leak and I always leave a port size and half inch for room between the inside end of the port and box wall

yea leaving about 6.5 rear space on each port, unles we do 4 or 5 4" either would fit, if we did have to extended port out a little only be a couple of inches ad some mdf for support and seal well never had a issue before. 6 Close to 56.52 port, 4x4 50.24, 5 4" 62.80 of course depends a little on tuning general idea. Depends guess how much sub likes on port area and net port. Seen some using 45-67 roughly on boxes, know more when sub shows up assume.

could do two 6" but could not face port both up one up and one forward what 56.52

5x4" 62.80 p area, 25x25x21

50-62 using 4 - 5 4" ports

new box can use 3 or 4 4 " believe the 6 be a little tough. 2 4" would have less port area then actually one 6" according to Precision Ports who made them we did this before I used one in RE Sub.

Grammar always wondered what the heck that is when I am rushed have a friend who had a stroke and for that goes when I set and correct it, I past college level grammar to get my degree, but had to work and study it, English always had to work at for the most part I get buy but that was before the accident and disability from said accident if you need to know always get this grammar comments to me just takes away from the issue. College well it's been a while for the most part just say what I need to say but anyways, how much port area is needed? 37 closer 2 x 6 would need a long port vs. 3 x 4". If not rushed I could guess use word and spell check grammar check evidently you got the idea. Just have to try and put someone down.

Current box net 3.58 sides are like 1.5 in spots to break in then go to bigger box anyone see issues please need to decide today if possible 03/25/14

93 Db vs 89.6 old one with 90.5 sounded better with one then two of lower subs both good subs.

Right box, would the Zion 15 work well and still have SQ? More port maybe for people want SPL 24x24x20 box and aero port I would of though be good on sound yet work when you want to show it off, older not dead :-)

My education is paralegal and accounting, Sacramento, now just mostly help friends consumer issues or local problems, not active since disabled of sorts now. Interesting had one guy a photograper who had a helicopter land wrong once and got hit in the head by a blade, federal court expert witness could not believe the cost and time to resolved the case never did took another job after 2 years and it was still going on, Sacramento was big but actually for me nice town. Now little town of 6000. No neighbors to complain :-)

I guess was asking after seeing review on SSA site on Zion: "" the one woofer thats right slap in the middle of sq and spl!! Posted by Lantz Lewis on 5th Jul 2012 i have 1 15" zcon running 2ohms to a audioque 3500.1 and LOVE it.louder than the orionn hcca i previously owned, and the kicker solo x's. has GREAT sound quality. in my opinion, its the one woofer that has both sq and spl. i would recommend this sub to anyone wanting serious bass"

This is reply: "Yes, as I stated a few times before, the Xcon is fine if you set your gains correctly. If you want the Zcon just for the purpose of your going to wail on the sub all the time"

Xcon 15” Standard 30Hz Displacement .2 GR 4.7 Net 3.12 Hz 31.77 Port A: 45.00 Box 35.5 x 16.5 x 17.4375 Port 3 x 15 x 32.9375 Xcon 15” Optima Gr 5.63 Net 3.84 Hz 31.94 Port A: 56­ 19.375 x 35.5 x 17.5 Port 3.5 x 16 x 32.3125 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Zcon 15 Displacement 1.9 Gr. 4.72 Net 3.1 Hz: 35.50 Port A: 52.5 26.5 x 23.25 x 16.5 Port 3.5 x 15 x 30.625 Zeon 15” Optima Gr 6.32 Net 4.19 Hz 32.31 Port A. 67.69 45 x 18.25 x 16.5 Port 4.75 x 14.25 x 34.875 SSA Design specs off SSA site.

I had two 18s in this and like the low bass and once in a while the sub head feel without worry of to much power to sub, told I loose sq on Zion and needed a larger box as now only have 3.5 net, but going to a 24 x 24 x 20 box, then port maybe 1 6" aero port or 3 x 4" ports just thought Zion was rated closer with my amp Brutus Brz 2400 and it did make other sub smell on E40 or bass mekank magic mike stuff just playing when tuning in etc. 2250 sub more voice coil or 1750 xion, so is the Zion only a balls to the wall sub and in right box not good on the sq side? I ask because the truck below we ported in 2 18s told over power use small box change to larger box damn sounded great, do not want to have something that needs less box to use and turn down amp to use, but will hit when needed but still play well. I guess without hearing them locally I just figure I ask others and avoid after purchase regret. Reviews on store said Zion put out more did well as SPL and good sq as well was that wrong? Would not the box sort of fine tune what you use and you can always adjust back bass never done it but you cannot get what you do not have. I hate smell of speaker voice coil and embarrassing, e40 tunes old spl tuning or competition cd for fun push subs well, the quesiton was I looked at SSA's specs recommendation which I had to go to their other site to find, I did not see that much difference in box size a little but not a lot. If correct, mainly at the Optima box size which seem to be added port area net was still around 4.19 compared to 3.84 of xion. I am not the best at writing since leaving law firm, and just want to get the best sub for both sq and spl when needed not whimp out unless the sq is so great on xion the zion would be a down grade. If I have this wrong on specs, but feel they should be in ball park again got the specs from here: http://products.soundsolutionsaudio.com/index.php/product-information/zcon.html