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Oh wow, never saw this thread b4 GT = The SuphiX Been competeing in Halo since Aug 07 Hit me up with a FR and a msg so I'll know who you are :-) Random FR's are ignoeing.

wow, lol, careless driving? We have DTP here

Hmmmm, now I wonder, just how did I know you wer going to say that... So if jimmy can give ashley a orgasm, does that mean you can too? Look, all I'm saying is, its a personal refrence, just because THEIR reviews says something about a product, doesn't mean you should take their word for it simply because of their status, or w/e the case maybe. Until you personaly have experience with the equipment, you shouldn't pass on information that you only heard of. Just my .02 You need some growing up to do...

Very interesting technique with bolting the box down so that it becomes part of the car. Never really heard that reason behind it..... Hmmmmmm. Let us know how it turns out! And please share all the tips from your gf's dad with us, not all of us talk to engineers everyday lol.

Its like you turn on a XXX video, and a big picture comes up and says, "penis in virgina. Over and Over again." ...... 30 mins later, "the end"

:roflmao: :roflmao: LMFAO So funny omg, tears of laughter right now. Please, post pics, goals, just anything except more

Have you own both? That doesn't apply you numbnut. LOL.. Oi oi oi. Troll and tool around some more. You haven't heard both either, so don't try to act smart. What do you mean that doesn't apply? Your calling somebody a idiot that you don't even know. Your the one that says they sound better, they look cooler, and are stronger, but yet you haven't had both to compare? I don't understand how that makes sense? The OP was simply stateing his opinion, so that makes him a "idiot", and me a numbnut simply because your stateing facts that you can't support? No, I haven't heard both, I've only owned gen2, but I'm not the one bashing other ppl either. I'm not acting smart, just wondering how can you make such a statement if you can't back it.

Have you own both?

LMFAO, the big two! I lauhh kuz thats what I had did to begin with mines too! Its like, ok, so this one is simple, just alt to batt, I can see that. And the the neg from the batt, to the chasis, okay, thats pretty ez, since there is already one there, and then the last one, your like, where da phuck duz dis one go??? To the frame of the engine block??? lol. I had that moment with my 96 explorer, so I can relate. But definately not worth taking it to a audio shop IMO, they'll charge you something stupid, and try and get you to buy something that sounds amazing coming fromt their mouth. Just youtube it, or google it, should be pretty str8 4ard. Goodluck! Hope that helps.

well the thing is i already have 2 of the old ones, and i was going to add 2 more. have you heard them both? i just really want to know if they really do sound different, cause i really like how mine sound i was just looking for more rumble, and i dont want to have to mix my woofers Well they always say never mix woofers... Hmmmm, I wonder. It would suck if you had to buy 4 new gen 3s. I wonder if the p/s are the same if you could get away with it. IDK lol.

there's alot of post's saying the new ones don't sound like the old ones, that's my biggest problem with it all. i just dont see why they would change it and trash the older design, fi should be adding not taking away They don't sound like the old ones. They sound better then the old ones, but the difference wouldn't be drastic. They are adding something, only thing they take away is the weight of the sub, and that's a good thing Just curious, what exactly did they add? I believe in one of the other recent post, Nick or Scott said they added nothing different from gen 2 to gen 3. Same leads, spiders, etc etc... If what Fi says about adding nothing new, and simply taking away motor force, how is it possible to sound better then gen 2s? Does the motor make a difference in the sound quality? I thought all horse power equals all horse power, No matter how its produced. 1 = 1, no mater how you get there, its the same end result, thats just my opinion, not sure if its correct or not, please, enlightin me if I'm wrong, which I don't doubt it lol.

Don, What is the difference between your product and the many others out there? I am fully aware of your excellent customer service. But talking strickly product here, what can someone benefit from your product vs any others out there on the market? What is inside your materials that make it a better choice? What testing on these products can ensure us the consumers, that we are making the best decision when choosing your products vs anybody else?

Any body else care to share their thoughts or is this just a waste of a topic?

Love the build btw, very clean, looks professional.

You don't wna wait for the Zzzzzzzzz?

Nice, very technical way of saying no. I didn't know they had that going on, sorry.

Sad Face..... I wna see pics too! Maybe just the break room??? Or atleast the building or something. Maybe even the lil boys room???

ibanender, your not gonna win this one

So then you'd agree that there is no guidline a new comer could use execpt the four steps you listed?

Any body else with input?

And I totally understand that. Which is why I wanted to reach out, on here (the best forum) and see what people had to say. And also, thats why I gave the circumstance of starting from scratch. Since most people usually have one of three things, 1. Cd player 2. Amp 3. Sub I know that the list I stated above, as well as yours, (watts09) will change under these conditions. Which is why I wanted to hypothetically create a list that I, or anybody else, could in general, follow. If the builder has 0 equipment, this could be to some help. For someone that already has a piece of the puzzle, they will probly start hoping around, so to them, this wouldn't be as much help, but would atleast point them in the right direction as to what to get/purchase next. And in the real world, I know that this might not have to much value, seeing as 90% of us buy as we go, and see new amps or subs that have cought their interest while their wer initially saving for something else. I understand that, but still, as for me personally, I am going to take a new approach and try to start from the ground up. Again, thanks for you guys inputs!!! And if you simply have no input on the list, then simply tell me/us, where did you start your build, and why did you start there? I'm curious because I'm willing to bet that atleast 70% of people, espeically new comers, start off at - 1. Cd player 2. Amp 3. Sub

Alright, so I would like to get some input from the community on this one. Just a note, when I say "I", I will be referring to anybody building a system. Ok, so if I was to build a brand spanking new system in a completely stock vehicle. Where would I start, and where would I finish? That is the main question that this thread is created for. I am looking for inputs on how a system should start IDEALY for someone that is starting from scratch. Lets just assume that money, space, and time is out the picture on this one, which I am fully aware is never the case. Where should a person start. I am going to list thing is ascending order, starting from the most important, to the least important. Not literally meaning important, rather the chronological order in which a system should be completed in. 1. Brainstorming ideas 2. Determining of the vehicle 3. Detailing the space availible to sacrifice 4. Determing goals of the particular build 5. Selecting driver(s) for the sub stange 6. Determing the power that is required 7. Selecting the amp(s) for the sub stange 8. Selecting the driver(s)/component sets for the front stage 9. Selecting the amps for the front stage 10. Selecting the brain (Head Unit) 11. Calculating how much power is needed to supply enough energy to comfortable feed the amplifiers and vehicle 12. Selecting HO Alternator(s) and battery(s) 13. Selecting and determining what sound deadening materials is needed 14. Measuring distances that will be needed for wiring 15. Selecting all wires/terminals Now this list here is VERY, VERY vague and off the top of my head ATM as I am @ work, just getting ready to leave and wanted to post this out there to see what kind of responses that I will get, or any advice rather since thats what I'm after. The reasoning for this question if anybody cares is because my system got stolen last year, and this is where I stand ATM. With NOTHING. I understand that CA is never complete. But if anybody could share a user friendly guidline for people to use when the user is starting from the ground up, that would be GREATLY appreciated. I'm not sure if this has already been discussed or not, and I'm sorry if it has, or if this entire thing is hopeless or pointless. But I am looking for honest opinions on this. If this order is A$$ backwards, then please reorder it, or just simply state or add in what you think should be rearanged. I'm looking for input on rather this is even a valid guidline that somebody could use. After reading many threads on this site, I see a lot of new people, asking what amp they should get for this sub or that. A few posts later, ppl are asking what are their goals/equipment etc etc, and next thing you know, the OP is changing his whole setup simply because he/she was starting at square 5 instead of square 1. I hope this makes sense, and someone can share some light I'm looking to start building a system soon, and was just wondering if there was any guideline out there that one can use to get there sytem under way the first time the right way. In advance, THANK YOU

Thanks for the info!

yea I will probably add a second ALT or something. So far I have purchased 2 of my 8 subs(getting the rest on a pallet Feb 5-10th) I have a SAZ2000d right now but I am trading it plus cash for the 2 I bought 300$ worth of Birch Just ordered a Expert Pack of Stinger Roadkill (9 Sheets of 18x32) And my Pioneer 3200DVD is in the mail Box is getting built next week! NICE!