mikel7829

No generic answer. Depends on how you are cooking them. Baked... I know I know!!! But I still have not got another deep fryer.I am going to do about 20 hot and 20 Honey BBQ "real honey" no B.S. Honey BBQ sauce crap..

Should i marinate wings in my sauce before cooking them? And if so how long? And how would be the best way? thanks, michael

I think it is going to fair here today and rain up till Thursday...Guess I need to till the garden why I have a chance.

Exactly. There are things now like more than 2 valves per cylinder, overhead camshafts...Even my diesel is DOHC. The LS 4.8 I cited doesn't have 2...but it will still rape any Grand National motor. Not having a completely modern Fuel Injection system is retarded if you are building a car. Obvious exception is old shit with a carb, but once you go injected use a modern piece. The GN used port injection, so the fuel system is virtually the same. He would have to go stand-alone or adapt (which would be simple given tbe Camaro already has the same system basics) the existing system. Basically a pump/injector/regulator swap, and a good tune. Complete drop in LS with harness and ECU are dirt cheap.The dumb thing here is that in a Turbo motor it isn't the motor that makes power but the Turbo. Comes down to what will run the Turbo more efficientliy and this is where the LS will destroy things. Doesn't suck that if you pop a stock motor you can pick one up for $200. Plenty of guys running stock bottom ends near 1000hp with them. Good luck with a GN motor doing that. That alone tells the whole story. Your argument was that the fuel system is archaic when indeed it's not. While we're at it, the Buick 3.8 architecture has changed very little since the 70s, so even the GN engine could be considered modern. Hell, if you want to argue further, there's nothing advanced about the LS design either. Most all it's technology is old and proven and been in use for decades, so. . I really see no valid points here.His stock harness will almost plug right in, so there's half the battle won. GM used both the 3800 and 3400 in them. I personally would use the Vortec 4.3 if doing a six. You also have to remember your definition of cheap is far different than many others on the board. Not everyone wants an LS swap. Hotrodding encompasses all types. With boost, computer controls, and advancements in materials and machining, it's relatively simple and economical to make big power with anything. More interested in the ECU from 98 on than the motor. That was my comment. Sure you can do an aftermarket and I realize not everyone wants an LS, but in a car that will never be worth anything starting off with the cheapest way to make power is logical. The LS is not logical in his instance. He has to source more parts and perform more labor. He could literally run down to the junk yard, get a 3800 slap on the turbos, drive to the tuner and be driving daily. LS will require harness removal and installation, relocation of some underhood and chassis items, a new driveshaft, extra parts he won't need for the V6, and so on.The only advantages the LS provides is the potential for more power and the huge aftermarket. The LT1 has more capability to make power than the 3.8 for less too. If I were bothering to do a swap though I wouldn't step backwards. You're missing the point entirely. You're calling the guy stupid and telling him he's wrong because it's not what you would do or what you think is best. It doesn't matter what you think or know, it's not your car. The part I said he is wrong on is the unique aspect. As for building the car, I don't understand even buying one of those things. Maybe you should watch this Not far from stock with a single T66..

We were just saying that for the price and the wait time that better care should have been taken.No need to try to bad mouth SSA... They are a 110% company Not once have i bad mouthed them. Or said anything negative. In fact i spread ssa love everywhere i go.How is the Ethos? Ordered the re-cone yet?Nah there doing pretty good actually.. Loud as fuck.. Was my zcon loud as fuck? Yeeeaaaaaaapppppp!!!! I would have 2 zcons right now if i had the room to fit 2. I've seen you post all over this forum sayin dumb shit. Dont try starting shit with me because i expect more from a top notch company.. If you let a top not company slip and slide the least little bit.. Guess what.. They aren't a top notch company.. Like i say i never bad mouthed ssa or their products. I expect more from them.. Will i still support them? Of course. My conversation with your ass is done. I simply posted this for a friend. He received recones in a different manner before. Except this time he paid more and waited longer for my OPINION less. Yea whatever dude...You might as well go ahead and order your re-cones for your ethos...Since you are crying the dumb shit I might say stays in IHOP,,,But you are clueless when buying a sub...lol

Exactly. There are things now like more than 2 valves per cylinder, overhead camshafts...Even my diesel is DOHC. The LS 4.8 I cited doesn't have 2...but it will still rape any Grand National motor. Not having a completely modern Fuel Injection system is retarded if you are building a car. Obvious exception is old shit with a carb, but once you go injected use a modern piece. The GN used port injection, so the fuel system is virtually the same. He would have to go stand-alone or adapt (which would be simple given tbe Camaro already has the same system basics) the existing system. Basically a pump/injector/regulator swap, and a good tune. Complete drop in LS with harness and ECU are dirt cheap.The dumb thing here is that in a Turbo motor it isn't the motor that makes power but the Turbo. Comes down to what will run the Turbo more efficientliy and this is where the LS will destroy things. Doesn't suck that if you pop a stock motor you can pick one up for $200. Plenty of guys running stock bottom ends near 1000hp with them. Good luck with a GN motor doing that. That alone tells the whole story. Your argument was that the fuel system is archaic when indeed it's not. While we're at it, the Buick 3.8 architecture has changed very little since the 70s, so even the GN engine could be considered modern. Hell, if you want to argue further, there's nothing advanced about the LS design either. Most all it's technology is old and proven and been in use for decades, so. . I really see no valid points here. His stock harness will almost plug right in, so there's half the battle won. GM used both the 3800 and 3400 in them. I personally would use the Vortec 4.3 if doing a six. You also have to remember your definition of cheap is far different than many others on the board. Not everyone wants an LS swap. Hotrodding encompasses all types. With boost, computer controls, and advancements in materials and machining, it's relatively simple and economical to make big power with anything. More interested in the ECU from 98 on than the motor. That was my comment. Sure you can do an aftermarket and I realize not everyone wants an LS, but in a car that will never be worth anything starting off with the cheapest way to make power is logical. Nice sean!...But if you had any common sense you would have built the lower end why you had it tore apart...Hope you have stayed up to date with AAA payments

We were just saying that for the price and the wait time that better care should have been taken.No need to try to bad mouth SSA... They are a 110% company Not once have i bad mouthed them. Or said anything negative. In fact i spread ssa love everywhere i go. How is the Ethos? Ordered the re-cone yet?

We were just saying that for the price and the wait time that better care should have been taken. No need to try to bad mouth SSA... They are a 110% company

We were just saying that for the price and the wait time that better care should have been taken. Like I stated he will take care of it I am sure...And wait time on a product that is in demand and trumps the computition may take some time...The demand takes factor as I am sure the re-cone kit from some shaddy manufactures you might have got sooner...

I will probably just get the GNX block "built" and piece together the top half..with twin T66's and go from there and see how the Camanational does.

Threw up some red flags no engine pics.. http://www.ebay.com/itm/400922223777?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

I am sure Aaron or mark will get to the bottom of it.. Still nothing wrong with the re-cones like what was stated the will lay fine when glued to the baskets.

Pretty nice! Bet that little bazzturd will fly with the 6 speed Price is pretty reasonable too..

Exactly. There are things now like more than 2 valves per cylinder, overhead camshafts...Even my diesel is DOHC. The LS 4.8 I cited doesn't have 2...but it will still rape any Grand National motor. Not having a completely modern Fuel Injection system is retarded if you are building a car. Obvious exception is old shit with a carb, but once you go injected use a modern piece.The GN used port injection, so the fuel system is virtually the same. He would have to go stand-alone or adapt (which would be simple given tbe Camaro already has the same system basics) the existing system. Basically a pump/injector/regulator swap, and a good tune.Complete drop in LS with harness and ECU are dirt cheap.The dumb thing here is that in a Turbo motor it isn't the motor that makes power but the Turbo. Comes down to what will run the Turbo more efficientliy and this is where the LS will destroy things. Doesn't suck that if you pop a stock motor you can pick one up for $200. Plenty of guys running stock bottom ends near 1000hp with them. Good luck with a GN motor doing that. That alone tells the whole story. Your argument was that the fuel system is archaic when indeed it's not. While we're at it, the Buick 3.8 architecture has changed very little since the 70s, so even the GN engine could be considered modern. Hell, if you want to argue further, there's nothing advanced about the LS design either. Most all it's technology is old and proven and been in use for decades, so. . I really see no valid points here. His stock harness will almost plug right in, so there's half the battle won. GM used both the 3800 and 3400 in them. I personally would use the Vortec 4.3 if doing a six. You also have to remember your definition of cheap is far different than many others on the board. Not everyone wants an LS swap. Hotrodding encompasses all types. With boost, computer controls, and advancements in materials and machining, it's relatively simple and economical to make big power with anything. I do like the vortec 4.3's..Great little motors! I think it would be fun to do the GN swap,and different around here anyway

Exactly. There are things now like more than 2 valves per cylinder, overhead camshafts...Even my diesel is DOHC.The LS 4.8 I cited doesn't have 2...but it will still rape any Grand National motor. Not having a completely modern Fuel Injection system is retarded if you are building a car. Obvious exception is old shit with a carb, but once you go injected use a modern piece.The GN used port injection, so the fuel system is virtually the same. He would have to go stand-alone or adapt (which would be simple given tbe Camaro already has the same system basics) the existing system. Basically a pump/injector/regulator swap, and a good tune.Complete drop in LS with harness and ECU are dirt cheap.The dumb thing here is that in a Turbo motor it isn't the motor that makes power but the Turbo. Comes down to what will run the Turbo more efficientliy and this is where the LS will destroy things. Doesn't suck that if you pop a stock motor you can pick one up for $200.Plenty of guys running stock bottom ends near 1000hp with them. Good luck with a GN motor doing that. That alone tells the whole story.It would be alot easier to do a GN swap than a V8 conversion..

Or a Funky Pup?

Are you planing on building the lower half? we will see if I still have traction, if so then yes as I'll want a smaller pulley. Outside of some ARP shit and some pistons it is all built to make 900hp Then we go cruising for broads and racing dudes on hot import nights. I am just bummed that Summer Nats is moving to Milwaukee this year. Was going to go autocross it, lol. Maybe when I get done with my Camanational we will be able to star in the next fast and the furious.. Fast and Furious 17: Mongoloids Gone Wild Will you grow a mullet with me?

Congrads!

Why would I build what every one else does? What is the fun in that? Are you trying to show your stupidity?Let me see, spend way more, have way less and have it be worth less. Sounds like a GREAT IDEA!! You should re-ask your own question to yourself. Is everyone else an idiot or why did they make that choice? What is the fun in being different when it costs me money and has no benefit? Benefit will be originality&bragging rights plus mid-life crisis will help me get a mid 20's slutter-gutter..G-force will make me feel like I got ballz like grapefruits...And I give two shits about the money,, If you want to brag about being an idiot then by all means. Can't say I understand either the bragging or the idiotness. Now I will never change my mind...LOL Just to prove my point! Camanational is a done deal..

Why would I build what every one else does? What is the fun in that? Are you trying to show your stupidity?Let me see, spend way more, have way less and have it be worth less. Sounds like a GREAT IDEA!! You should re-ask your own question to yourself. Is everyone else an idiot or why did they make that choice? What is the fun in being different when it costs me money and has no benefit? Benefit will be originality&bragging rights plus mid-life crisis will help me get a mid 20's slutter-gutter..G-force will make me feel like I got ballz like grapefruits...And I give two shits about the money,, If you want to brag about being an idiot then by all means. Can't say I understand either the bragging or the idiotness. So when i do this and have better times on the track than a built GNX I will still be a idiot? and this will be including the weight from the walled out 18"s.

Wait till tomarrow .. I start my 4 day weekend.. I think you need it bud. Agreed!!

Why would I build what every one else does? What is the fun in that? Are you trying to show your stupidity?Let me see, spend way more, have way less and have it be worth less. Sounds like a GREAT IDEA!! You should re-ask your own question to yourself. Is everyone else an idiot or why did they make that choice? What is the fun in being different when it costs me money and has no benefit? Benefit will be originality&bragging rights plus mid-life crisis will help me get a mid 20's slutter-gutter..G-force will make me feel like I got ballz like grapefruits...And I give two shits about the money,,

Wait till tomarrow .. I start my 4 day weekend..

Can't, stockers are shot. Winter shoes will be on another set of wheels.Even without the salt, chromed aluminum is not a forever material. That bugs me. You won't own it long enough to matter. Found my motor yet? http://m.ebay.com/itm/151670036082?nav=SEARCH Nice but no V8 this time..Maybe next build, Way to throw away cash. Monies isn't everything can't take it with you...But legends you can