Notorious97200

Welcome ! All the Sundown amps ratings are for a 1 ohm load, but if you run the saz 1500,for example, at 2 ohms it will give you 800 watts !...(lol) The Dcon combo is good. But I'd rather use the 125.2 amp on the front speakers and a 1000 watts amp on the subs : 2 dcons at 2 ohms will get about 500-600 watts from a Sundown sax 1200. That would be a sick setup ! A single Icon on the same amp should sound sooo good too (my choice) ! You can see the recommanded enclosures in the tech center here. Do you have enough room in your trunk for what you want ? It's the first thing to look out.IMO

1) You can strapp(link) your 2 amps, and just set the gains on the master amp. You will have to use only one remote. But be careful with the final ohm load on the amps. ! 2) you can wire each sub on its own amp, and use the 2 remotes with a simple (phone) connector : this will let you have only one knob (this kind of connectors can be found easily in any electric supply shop.) It's simple and cheap. A friend of mine uses the 2nd solution, but he found that he had to cut/shorten the remote wire because of a loss in output (?!) I can't understand why, but he is happy with the result ! Good luck !

Your numbers are impressive, with such low power ! :fing34:

Instead of saving for a jl 1000/1, you can simply buy a bigger amp (1500 or 2000 wattsat 1 ohm). Be careful with the gain setting. And don't try to play under 1 ohm, it's not safe. If you need to upgrade your subsin the future, you will already have a powerful enough amp. Listen to Impious : "Pretty bad idea. Don't run those subs together"

x2 and this amp is 1 ohm stable as long as you have the electrical to support it. 3000 at 2 ohms IIRC

Forget the cap, it will not do anything good for you ! I think the deka batts are cheap and good ones. Optima's are not bad batteries, they may not be the best but if you have a good deal on them, get some. (I think you'd better get the Yellow or the Blue ones). You would need at least one under the hood and one in the back near the amps. The Crescendo amp is like the old Sundown 3000, much better IMO than the Audiopipe ! But the AP will work, don't worry ! Even with 2000 watts, your subs will pound hard ! Take a look at the Classifieds section here, for great deals Take advantage of the september Sundown sale. or db-r.com (official repair center for Sundown and others)

I'm in, waiting for more pics !!! :popcorn:

x 2:peepwall: We need that ! and we love pics !!! :popcorn: and welcome to SSA !

deh 880 or 800 prs in the USA, or Canada. deh p 88 rs or rs II in France and Europe. Maybe on some others too, but I do own a 88 rs II and I had a 880 prs before.

x2 You don't need them. They will never be audible with your bass ! You need the sound to come from the front. When you're in a concert, or listening to your home audio : you have the speakers in front of you, not in the back ! Work on your front speakers (install, dampening,...)

I've never heared the Hertz. The focal speakers are niiiice : I run a set of 165KP for 4 years, and I still love them. They like the power I give them from my Sundown sax 50.4 bridged : 2 x 160 watts rms. The tweeters may not be the best of the world, but they are better than a lot ! I think you can love any K series. The vr ? Why not, if they're really cheaper ?!

If your car has a strong electrical system, you can get a Sundown saz 3500 (this would be perfect), or even a saz 2500 ! There is a sale running on Sundown products these days But you really need electrical upgrades, like some agm batts(1 under the hood, and 2 in the back) and a HO alternator if you want to play your system at iddle safely. There are a lot of amps in the market that can fit your goals : MTX TE4000, Audiopipe 3000, Crescendo audio 3000,...etc, etc Give us a budget, and what kind of upgrades you will have on your car.

2 SSA Icons on a 1500 watts amp (sundown saz 1500 for example). That would be a good setup,but what speakers are you running ? Do you use an amp for the speakers ? I run a 1500 watts amp for my sub and a 320 watts amp for my front speakers with only the big3 done (partially). I have no problem at all. Your diesel truck should be ok with that power, it must have a strong alternator.

Thak you. I did not know that. I will contact them in a few minutes !

Madisound is really a good dealer : very fast answers, and they gave me the choice for the shipping. I choose USPS express mail, because Fedex was too expensive. But now I need to find 4" elbows and ring connectors (2 of them). Parts express got them, but I'd like to find somewhere else to buy them! If you have any info, feel free to tell me !!! Without elbows, I will have to install the ports on the side of the box, and it's not what I want. Help me, please:puzzled:

I like your ports ! Why did you choose to put them on the side of the box ? Do you think It will be efficient ? I hope so! Did not find elbows? My next box will have 4" aeros, but I can only have the aeros like yours if I don't find elbows. But I would like them to fire back on the trunk lid.

Don't bother yourself with a 3 way set up. Try to install a 5.25" comonent set correctly. It is not too hard to make some "spacer rings" (is that the good word ? lol) for the speaker. Use some deadening material for that door and a good set of speakers. If you want to go active forget the component set, and look for a pair of 5.25 mids and a pair of tweeters. It will be more than enough for you. The Focal CA series are not so good speakers for the high price you will pay. Unless you go at least for the K series, forget Focal. The Bravox deal has ended, sure ? Ask the ssa store. Listen to M5 : he knows his sh...!

:fing34:It make sense !

That's a good advice !!! A Btl for your first setup on a budget ? It's too much... Get a Fi Bl (DVC2), and a 1000-1500 watts amp : Sundown has some good refurbished / used amps with warranty. With the money you'll save on amp and sub, you can have a wonderful box built by some of the great builders here on the forum. You only need ONE set of speakers(component set) on your front doors, with a 2 x 100 watts rms amplifier. For cheaper amps, look into Audiopipe , Audioque, Clarion, MBQuart, ... With about 1200 watts rms, you won't need a HO alt, just the Big3 in 0 ga. Just watch your voltage on a voltmeter to see if you need upgrades.

It was not easy for Part-express, but I found everything, cheaper, at Madisound !!! I just have to wait now ! :popcorn:

Personnally, I would strapp them, looks cooool ! This is an example of strapping !! 2 saz 1000 on the right, and 2 on the left. A little extreme don't you think ?!!

advantage : only one amp to set (the master), one gain and one filter , so you should have the same signal through both woofers. Strapping will not let you run your amps to a final load of 1 ohms. From what I understand ! the only thing you need to add is a single rca cable to link the 2 amps.

Without the rear seats there is a lot of room in a gti ! Looks nice so far ! Keep posting pics, please !

Hi everybody, I need to buy some parts for my next sub box. I need 2 flared ports with elbows, and 1 or 2 pairs of binding posts. I found everything on part-express, but I need another shop because of their sales conditions (they only accept wire transfers, not Paypal from my country! they charge me $25 for the transfer !!!) I will look up on ebay, but I think you can help me here ! thanks for all your informations.

Why do choose these amps ? Can your car handle more power ? So that you can run a more powerful amp ! These MTX subs will play with 1500-2000 watts, but I know they can take more than that. save some more money, and find a more powerful amp if you can. I run sundown amps, and like them a lot. The Saz 1500 run my sub like a champ !!!