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Not only does it fall off, but even when applied "right" it doesn't deaden for crap either.

And even cheaper used, I bought my wife a spinner which she hasn't used.

100 would be for a road/trail pos bike. A lot more if it was soley indoors. I don't 'need' high performance. J No one does, comfort is ALWAYS step one. If you aren't comfortable you won't ride. Even decent bikes from the mid-80's fetch $200+ though, so $100 just isn't realistic. Damn..................I can see this will become more expensive than I thought. Lay it on me sean. J IMO this is a better style trainer: http://www.amazon.com/Minoura-Action-Advantage-Rollers-Trainer/dp/B001JBNAK6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1304263843&sr=8-2 but expect to fall when you are just starting out This style is much easier to ride on, but only works on your spinning muscles: http://www.amazon.com/Bell-Motivator-Indoor-Bicycle-Trainer/dp/B000AAYBWS/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1304263886&sr=8-3 *and I didn't look at models to recommend, just showing styles of trainers As for bikes, in a low budget scenario I'd be looking at newest for a steel bike from the early 90's. Depending on your size and how you fit I can surely help narrow that down, but $200-300 is a reasonable budget to get something reliable. If you buy a $200 bike at target you will wear out parts within your first 200 miles on the trainer which in reality should take less than 20 rides. No reason that someone even part way fit can't pull more than 15mph on a trainer, then it'd take less than 15 hours. An old school nice piece on the other hand will give you thousands of miles before and in between minor parts replacement. Odd ? but what about the Jeep branded bikes? I ask beacuse my old man has one. Has had it about 10 years, and does at least 20 miles a week in the summer with zero issues. And I like the spinners. Cheaper than I expected too. J Its the components that fail so that depends. If it is a mt style in general those are more robust, but poor quality stuff doesn't last

Are you rebuilding them? If so let me know. We have been buying shit ones and rebuilding them for use in our haunt. We may be able to help you out if you like. I have a dead one someone gave me because they figured I could fix it. Never looked at it in 2 years. Won't power on supposeedly What gen is it? If it is a 4th then try what I just posted and let me know. <-- has no idea, nor a power cord

And then sell in a year

Are you rebuilding them? If so let me know. We have been buying shit ones and rebuilding them for use in our haunt. We may be able to help you out if you like. I have a dead one someone gave me because they figured I could fix it. Never looked at it in 2 years. Won't power on supposeedly

Used to be made in CO, but that stopped 5 years ago.

Not probably, 100% although some components that are critical come from Malaysia. (also possible some major parts from Vietnam as a critical part supplier for them just put up a facility there last year). Either way, the only way they are different is if the advertised chinese drive didn't pass some of the end of line tests as well. Normally that stuff goes to Fry's so I'd bet it also stays in China.

100 would be for a road/trail pos bike. A lot more if it was soley indoors. I don't 'need' high performance. J No one does, comfort is ALWAYS step one. If you aren't comfortable you won't ride. Even decent bikes from the mid-80's fetch $200+ though, so $100 just isn't realistic. Damn..................I can see this will become more expensive than I thought. Lay it on me sean. J IMO this is a better style trainer: http://www.amazon.com/Minoura-Action-Advantage-Rollers-Trainer/dp/B001JBNAK6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1304263843&sr=8-2 but expect to fall when you are just starting out This style is much easier to ride on, but only works on your spinning muscles: http://www.amazon.com/Bell-Motivator-Indoor-Bicycle-Trainer/dp/B000AAYBWS/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1304263886&sr=8-3 *and I didn't look at models to recommend, just showing styles of trainers As for bikes, in a low budget scenario I'd be looking at newest for a steel bike from the early 90's. Depending on your size and how you fit I can surely help narrow that down, but $200-300 is a reasonable budget to get something reliable. If you buy a $200 bike at target you will wear out parts within your first 200 miles on the trainer which in reality should take less than 20 rides. No reason that someone even part way fit can't pull more than 15mph on a trainer, then it'd take less than 15 hours. An old school nice piece on the other hand will give you thousands of miles before and in between minor parts replacement.

Fixored. Thought since you all wanted something negative from me I'd oblige, although that is more obvious than negative. Lots of quality build work in their VJ.

100 would be for a road/trail pos bike. A lot more if it was soley indoors. I don't 'need' high performance. J No one does, comfort is ALWAYS step one. If you aren't comfortable you won't ride. Even decent bikes from the mid-80's fetch $200+ though, so $100 just isn't realistic.

On my phone; I'll look for you later

Lol $100, you can't buy a used pos for that. About where trainers start, but go easily up to near $1k. If you want skill and balance get a roller, others a simple fluid damped is fine for a start. And with ALL exercise equipment PLEASE buy used.

When he pays and takes ownership

Ie, do you want to balance or just spin?

Yes. How "good" of a rider are you?

Going to rain all day here it looks like I wanted to do a bunch of work with the chainsaw too. Not so effective in the rain.

It effing rains or turns to 40F everytime I have a spot in a day to ride. Have three bikes at this point and a whopping two miles on for the year. Aargh. And yes, its fucking raining.

HBD!

You definitely can choose how to read things just as much as you can choose how to write them. Pretty sure in the case stated above no matter how I said that would have created the same reaction. Definitely learned people who are so biased that they read wrong first will always continue.

And I realize you are going to try to make the room the box. Make sure you account for the QL when modeling.

If you are going to run IB, then it won't be an LLT... but for once I nearly like your idea. Remove the experiment and focus on the install instead.

Great idea. My W4's are my pc speakers and I fucking love them.

Stellar, just dropped him off at MSP. Are you the boss now? Of everyone else, but alas I was before. I didn't deliver him from my trunk into Lake Minnetonka if that is what you were inferring

Play a 2500Hz signal, turn on the crossover and adjust the dial until it is 3dB down. That will be a 2500Hz cross point.