///M5

Perhaps you should drive a Chevy once, my doors needed a shit ton of CLD to stop being huge resonant amplifiers. On the opposite note, and not surprisingly the M5 even when nearly 20 years old fared WAY better. While I agree that the term mass loading is confusing, it is used in NVH engineering to mean anything that shifts a resonance and the damping characteristics of a particular device. In this case of course the mass is the least important but really the damping. Note, I am using the word damping and not dampening. The distinction of course comes to the amount of ringing that the targeted area is left with in the end. With a door or any surface near a radiating driver we obviously want things to be critically damped and not ring. The mass loading in this case both changes the resonance and significantly alters the actual response of the skin which is the final goal. The misnomer of course occurs when translated into normal terms and all that is focused on is the addition of mass which is only a small part of the puzzle. The bottom line is that the true goal is to prevent the panels from resonating and adding energy where we don't want it in the acoustic response. Of course this is completely and 100% different than acoustic absorption which is done in a completely different method. Your description of a cross brace is spot on as well. A ton of coloration of sound definitely comes from a piss poor baffle and is also necessary. Again the mass addition as long as it is a flexible energy absorbent substance can surely help in the damping of the area around the baffle and is required, but adding stiffness to prevent flexure is also important to minimize any coloration.

Perhaps neither then. Ford was dead nuts on, either amp is fine but neither are optimal for your setup although if you have to choose the Kicker is a lot closer.

Well you know how I feel, but here is a link for you: http://www.soundsolutionsaudio.com/forum/i...ic=6582&hl=

I wouldn't buy either the Hifonics or the AQ and really don't understand at all why anyone thinks differently.

Not enough heroin in the world to make me believe that.

Daylight pics?

Jeez Ryan had I known you were going to sell her I wouldn't have driven her so nice.

Holy shit that was fast.

Nope, instead make Erica do it and when she is slobbered replace said bottle with your sausage.

Just because it is a FSC with 4wd doesn't mean you should equate it with being off road capable. My truck is pretty useless once taken off the pavement.

Sort of a bummer that no one other than my buddies wife brought a camera, either way she took this for you Although as far as you could see there was more and better.

lol, I do that

Only if you bleed monthly

Generically speaking sub-35hz isn't your cup of tea

If you want the best midbass response possible, and it's not an extremely high-end luxury vehicle with a lot of deadening already installed, you're going to have to, I'm afraid. But it's well worth it Do you think 60 sq feet will be enough to do my trunk and the two front doors? Its a 94 Accord EX Some of us have more than that in our doors, again it depends on your goals. Either way it would be a hell of a start.

So what did you guys do on the 4th? You can guess what I did. God I love Lake Minnetonka.

Had Cambodian food for dinner though. Yummy.

I suppose that is what happens when I let someone else book the rooms for me.

Longmont actually, should be in Boulder instead though this place is a joke. Saved $40 on the hotel though...not worth it.

So this was not a personal shot? Don't get me wrong, I'm by no means throwing a fit. You have a point, but you can use tact with someone new to forums. So if you weren't trying to act cool what was the point of the ghetto talk? And no I wouldn't call it a personal shot, just citing facts. No, because my question was answered before all this other stuff. I'm planning on 1 layer of Damplifier and 1 of Overkill. Unless you would suggest otherwise. Not so sure it was answered. You are interested in output, I wouldn't expect deadening to help your output at all and in fact might hurt it. Again it depends all on your goals.

Not quite sure I followed your description of what you tried, but it does sound like something is wired wrong if with your buddies amp it didn't do much either.

A lot of the rapid prototype machines build stuff out of liquid plastic. They have to do it in layers so they aren't the end all for all shapes, but they can make about anything. Basically printers that lay thin layers on each other until everything is all built up. Pretty damn cool to watch.

I didn't even pick up on it, probably because I got my mother to ship it for me Enjoy the "Ram Air Tube" Was it packed to your satisfaction? Looked good, fedex/ups or whoever was actually nice to the box too.

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Actually had an amp in it.