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I'd use it to send love notes to the people driving in the car next to me.

Glad you found something, I started a search to help but got severly distracted by an empty stomach. Makes me wish I lived closer to a city...oh, yah that's right I forgot I can use my neighbors wireless network anytime I want.

EFF the internal amp, not like you are driving a school bus sized burban.

Absolutely - I don't know if Nick has any left ... he was clearing out L's and XL's last week. Might want to check with him, can't beat $25. The other half called it a bowling shirt, and I told her to STFU. In this case that would be the wrong half, she could have at least called it a hockey shirt.

Hopefully on fun things.

Ummm, if you've got the power and space the Rls WILL work great for HT.

Teehee....yeah, I was hoping my inquiring would turn into a delightful conversation about the technology and it's advantages/disadvantages, and about SS having the first production driver to use it.....but the damn guy wouldn't stop simply trying to sell me last years models, so we never even actually talked about the new Eclipse subs (other than "he can order them if I want them....but I could get the older models that're in inventory for 'cheap'". Oh well....such is life at the local dealer Makes me wish we had more than 1 local Eclipse dealer...LOL And the funny part about it to me is that he thinks he is a sales guy. They are the type of people that ruin my industry and give salespeople a bad name. When I travel with Regional Managers/Reps that come in and just spew out information regarding their products I tell them to never come travel with me again because I can't deal with the "show up and throw up". A real salesperson would have asked you questions and before ever starting the process of showing you squat would have realized that you had already heard an LMT even if he knew nothing about it.

That's user error, you haven't fixed it yet. I'd get out the glue before listening to it anymore...

I would have clicked faster had it been titled: Fat Wire pics

I assume you've looked into a USB one?

Brilliant *gulps down a guinneas*

Heck if you wanna wait, $220 is pretty cheap anyways. I've actually thought about moving my RLp into the truck and putting one of the dang's drivers IB in the M. At only 5+inches deep it would hardly be invasive like any other 12.

TOP....hours later

Oh, you have to realize that these 1/nth octave analyzers are supposed to follow IEC requirements for the method that they use to compute totals. I guarantee since none of these follow the standards that if you ran a mic in parallel to all of them at once each one would give you a different reading at each level. Nobody hardly at all follows the right standards except measurement companies such as: B&K, Larson Davis, LMS, 01dB, Oros, and so on. All of their analyzers will be over $5k to start out with. On the same note there is NO STANDARD at all for FFT analyzers, but IMO using one of those which is cheap, pc driven, and most importantly REPEATABLE will give you real results that you can tune your car to. Almost all software driven FFT's can "compute" 1/3 octaves and display as you are asking as well. No, they don't follow a standard but nothing your looking at does either. What they do is allow you to buy a really accurate Pro Audio device for cheap that is a way better front end then on their electronics. Unless you pull out some smoking gun, you won't get my approval until you switch to something that at least has a decent a/d chip on it. To my knowledge you will only find those on a pc driven device at such a low price point.

I have no faith in the TL product, and have actually posted here and other places looking for technical documentation on the TL sensors as I do not believe that a pressure transducer can be sensitive enough and have the dynamic range to do what they promise. I have seen no results, specs, or real comparisons. TL slams on other technologies, but have never compared themselves to a true measurement mic and analyzer. Again, what I will tell you is accurate is a good sound card with reasonable microphone. I would buy a computer driven unit and go from there.

Normal yes, what isn't normal is that the plot is shared right on the page that you order off of.

Your making this tough on me, I hate PDF files! The first one is a class II (ie your ear is more accurate). Unless I can see a better spec it is Poo. The Rane doesn't state its spec, but I have a gut feel it is better. Only does 1/6 octaves which to me isn't enough though. The first PE unit is also class II. And the last has crap for specs. If you see something that is class 2 it will be accurate to about 2dB at 1kHz and by 10kHz its spec gets loosened to 6dB. At that point, I wouldn't even bother with an instrument. The RadioShack SPL meter is also a class 2 device. You could buy one of those for $30 or whatever and just use 31.5, 63,... sine waves and measure each frequencies SPL. It will be just as accurate as any of the above. At least with WinMLS you can choose your frontend/data acquisition by picking a good soundcard. The s.card is what determines the accuracy, plus you get MLS excitation which allows synthesized anechoic measurements in a reflective field. Also, just like that people like to see higher octave slopes on their crossovers...I really like to have more resolution that 1/6th or 1/3 octaves. The unit I use can measure in sub Hz, instead of really large bins giving you a much better result when working with parametrics. I am not saying go WinMLS since I have never used it, but I would surely look towards separating the acquistion and frontend from the package--as long as you have a cpu.

What do you have for an eq?

Self portrait?

Both will be adequate to make you deaf quickly.

Wow, 6-8 weeks for tins is painful. The ghosts look nice though. Have to post pics when you get it back.

Cooking, mmmm