and to add my opinion, i would say go with the 4 15's. i have never heard 8 12's. the trunk in a caprice gives you a lot of options with a box because of the shape. i have 4 15's in my trunk and it is loud as hell. if you power it correctly you will be satisfied.

hold on bigjohn...so u tellin me u beat a truck with 4 15's? what kinda subs, amp, combo? are u talkin db's?

you got it.

im not talking db. im talking peoples choice. 15 people listen to his then mine....

i have beaten a few SUV's with 4 15s.....

1 navi with 4 kicker 15s on a few AB amps......

1 blazer with 4 hifonics olyimpa and hifonics bruits

1 esaclade with 4 15 p1s on some mtx amps

1 explorer with 3 15 MEPHs i cant recall what amps.

.... and those are suv's

i can list tons of cars aswell.

i have yet to be metered. the guy with the blazer has a TL... he was gonna meter my car.. but then after we had out lil bass races in the parking lot at his work... he no longer wants to meter my car... he wants to go to a show togather..... hes at 148. and the way he acts im sure hes affraid that im gonna put up a bigger number then him.... his own team mate told him my shit was way louder then his.

dpt i told you brother.. i have been there with tons of subs in my trunks...4 12s and 2 15s in a 90's syle lincoln towncar... it was loud but nothing like combo i have now.

and to be honest with you im bored...... im working on some new shit.. im putting these bls and this 3000d in my 75 lincoln and cockin a whole new set up.... still gonna be 2 15's but it should be a WHOLE lot stronger.

DTP you said you were gonna put some pics and vids up of your cars...........

Well, your point is still valid although that "people's choice" shit is for mongoloids, as Sean put it

It was previously mentioned in here, 90% install. Although I like Ramos' version and put the 5% beer in there

bigjon, what's your setup tuned to?

Problem with ears vs. mic comparisons is that ears can be tricked. Lower notes sound a lot louder to us than similarly loud higher frequencies in the bass range. I'm not saying you aren't louder for sure, just pointing it out.

i put some pics up finally. seing ur remark made me remeber. i will post more later. and i need to hear ur setup. u got me real hype over here but i like my pops always told me.. i dont believe chit stinks till i smell it.

33 hrz..... and you cant trick air rushing in and out past your face and body. you cant trick breathing changes,.

DTP i dont blame you at all.... sadly only two people on SSA have heard it in person.. and one of them heard it with a bad alt... but it was never the less very near what it allways is.

if you were in texas i would invite you to come hear it.

as soon as i have time to go to austin and run some passes at the TL i surly will!

DTP where can i see your pics?

33 hrz..... and you cant trick air rushing in and out past your face and body. you cant trick breathing changes,.

DTP i dont blame you at all.... sadly only two people on SSA have heard it in person.. and one of them heard it with a bad alt... but it was never the less very near what it allways is.

if you were in texas i would invite you to come hear it.

as soon as i have time to go to austin and run some passes at the TL i surly will!

DTP where can i see your pics?

bigjon, you should head out to austin 18-20th

im planning on going, theres going to be heatwave there, 2 day long car show, truck show, bikini girls and just about anything on wheels is going to be there

http://www.heatwaveinc.com/

33 hrz..... and you cant trick air rushing in and out past your face and body. you cant trick breathing changes,.

I'd still have to disagree. I think frequency still plays a part. If I go out to my car and play a sweep from 80 hz down to 20, the 80 hz will start out giving me a headache but I won't feel it in my body. Once I get down to 50-60 hz I feel it more in my chest. If I go lower, down to 30 hz, I feel it more in my gut and the small of my back. As the frequency gets lower the feeling seems to move down my body.

I think vehicle type plays a part as well. My friend had two 12's and like 200 watts in his monte carlo but I coulda swore they were louder than my 4 12's and 1000 watts. Mine just rattled everything, his literally beat your body up. But I metered about 8 db more than him. I have a feeling seats might have played a part in that as well. He had tightly wrapped leather, and mine were semi-loose cloth. I think the leather helped the sound bounce off of it, but the cloth absorbed more of it.

again, I'm not saying you aren't louder than any of them. I would have no idea. Just throwing it out there.

Edited July 17, 200817 yr by KU40

33 hrz..... and you cant trick air rushing in and out past your face and body. you cant trick breathing changes,.

I'd still have to disagree. I think frequency still plays a part. If I go out to my car and play a sweep from 80 hz down to 20, the 80 hz will start out giving me a headache but I won't feel it in my body. Once I get down to 50-60 hz I feel it more in my chest. If I go lower, down to 30 hz, I feel it more in my gut and the small of my back. As the frequency gets lower the feeling seems to move down my body.

I think vehicle type plays a part as well. My friend had two 12's and like 200 watts in his monte carlo but I coulda swore they were louder than my 4 12's and 1000 watts. Mine just rattled everything, his literally beat your body up. But I metered about 8 db more than him. I have a feeling seats might have played a part in that as well. He had tightly wrapped leather, and mine were semi-loose cloth. I think the leather helped the sound bounce off of it, but the cloth absorbed more of it.

again, I'm not saying you aren't louder than any of them. I would have no idea. Just throwing it out there.

intresting.

i have owned MANY lincolns.

i have allways found that towncars are hard to bring the bass into the cabin, the fuel tank sits upright as to close the truck off from the back seats. its all leather, and there is alot of factory sound mat all over.

i am really intrested in being metered. im not sayin that im louder then everyone.. im just voicing my finds and victorys.

i would love to go to heatwave... but i must work. a friend of mine, here in town. that owns a shop has tryed everything to get me to go.

trailer my car,

pay for my entry,

bring shade tent,

buy all the beer,

............. i have to work.

haha, damn alright though

i'll try and get pics and video

i'll give you a holler if i make my way to san marcos, i got my ssd back the other day and just got done setting the gains again

haha, damn alright though

i'll try and get pics and video

i'll give you a holler if i make my way to san marcos, i got my ssd back the other day and just got done setting the gains again

very nice, how does it feel to have that sound back!..... you still have my number right?

i cant believe i went without it

and yeah i still have it

you still wanting to get rid of those bl's?

i might be interested in a few months

i cant believe i went without it

and yeah i still have it

you still wanting to get rid of those bl's?

i might be interested in a few months

yeah ill sell them... cause im team sundown now baby... so its nightshade time

alright, i'll let you know when time comes and damn, nightshades are going to be sick

have to check them out when you get them

the pics are under my profile. neither car has anything in it now. the 04 has 2 amps and a battery in my room and the 93 has everything except a h/u. some jack a s s broke in it and stole my s hit so i just took everything out. i will be putting in both systems shortly. just need some more money for them hcca's. and i still am debating if i wanna do 2 15 hcca's, 2 15 btl's, or 1 18 btl. i have to actually start hearing some of these speakers in action or i will be confused until then.

but as soon as i get them up and going i will be posting vid up.

Edited July 17, 200817 yr by dtp_on_24s

the pics are under my profile. neither car has anything in it now. the 04 has 2 amps and a battery in my room and the 93 has everything except a h/u. some jack a s s broke in it and stole my s hit so i just took everything out. i will be putting in both systems shortly. just need some more money for them hcca's. and i still am debating if i wanna do 2 15 hcca's, 2 15 btl's, or 1 18 btl. i have to actually start hearing some of these speakers in action or i will be confused until then.

but as soon as i get them up and going i will be posting vid up.

i cant find your pics in your profile.

ok i see what u mean. they are under my profile in my album. i put one up real quick for now. i will fix it either tonight or tomorrow.

a couple guys at the audio shop told me that today

Then those fools need to listen to the 8" in my car.

hold on bigjohn...so u tellin me u beat a truck with 4 15's? what kinda subs, amp, combo? are u talkin db's?

I think you are missing the point, it is not the subs or the amp, it is his install and how well he did it.

hold on bigjohn...so u tellin me u beat a truck with 4 15's? what kinda subs, amp, combo? are u talkin db's?

I think you are missing the point, it is not the subs or the amp, it is his install and how well he did it.

that was indeed tha point.

i know this is old but i stop with audio for a while but is there any cons of having subs facing towards the trunk lid? i saw quite a few mustangs with the subs firing upwards

2 15 inch bls will give you what your looking for...

i put my 2 15's against 4 15s all the time...thay never win....

im not talking comps just street beaters.

dude those must some gay 4 15s. if i had 4 15s id blow away 2 15 bls. ive heard bls, owned btls.

i know this is old but i stop with audio for a while but is there any cons of having subs facing towards the trunk lid? i saw quite a few mustangs with the subs firing upwards

Each vehicle will be different. The transfer function can have a negative effect on one firing direction and positive on another. General consensus is fire back.

WHo's the girl in your avatar?

2 15 inch bls will give you what your looking for...

i put my 2 15's against 4 15s all the time...thay never win....

im not talking comps just street beaters.

dude those must some gay 4 15s. if i had 4 15s id blow away 2 15 bls. ive heard bls, owned btls.

or a gay installer. either way you wanna think about it. its true.

i know this is old but i stop with audio for a while but is there any cons of having subs facing towards the trunk lid? i saw quite a few mustangs with the subs firing upwards

Each vehicle will be different. The transfer function can have a negative effect on one firing direction and positive on another. General consensus is fire back.

WHo's the girl in your avatar?

oh ok well im talking about a 1989 caprice.

idk who she is i found that pic on another site