ok i know i said i was going to get the AA Havocs but ive been brought to light about the SSA Icons and i kno youtube videos do no justice but ive been trying to do a comparison between these two subs... does the SSA icon have a foam or rubber surround? which would sound better in a sealed box? Ported? which one would satisfy my audio needs... better yet which one would last longer? which would go better with a sundown 3000d

ok i know i said i was going to get the AA Havocs but ive been brought to light about the SSA Icons and i kno youtube videos do no justice but ive been trying to do a comparison between these two subs... does the SSA icon have a foam or rubber surround? which would sound better in a sealed box? Ported? which one would satisfy my audio needs... better yet which one would last longer? which would go better with a sundown 3000d

ok to start both will last as long as u make them last. a sub dosnt just say of ok ive hit my 5 year limit goodnight.. if properly done it will last for years to come.

second what are u looking for sq spl...?

ok i know i said i was going to get the AA Havocs but ive been brought to light about the SSA Icons and i kno youtube videos do no justice but ive been trying to do a comparison between these two subs... does the SSA icon have a foam or rubber surround? which would sound better in a sealed box? Ported? which one would satisfy my audio needs... better yet which one would last longer? which would go better with a sundown 3000d

The surrouund on both is foam. It doesn't matter.

The ICON's are meant to be low end monsters. While the Havoc, which is still a monster, is slightly more output oriented. Both woofers are made by great companies here in the USA.

An SAZ-3000D is pushing the mechanical and thermal limits of both woofers. But I feel the ICON would take the power better and meet your expectations.

i was looking for somethin like in between spl and sq... im not into comps and what not i jus wanted somethin that sounds good and plays loud when i want to and also hits the low notes of like young jeezy or some bass tracks

is Orion HCCA amps good? ive heard they are kinda power hungry... or whats a good brand to go with for either sub? idk im lost now lol i thought i had it figured out in what system to buy but all these brands jus sound too appetizing lol

Edited February 10, 200916 yr by AAHavoc15s

to me it sounds like you want a saz1500d and a Fi BL

I vote an SSA XCON. only a couple weeks till they are out

It will be perfect for what your looking for

The Xcon is closer in segment to the Havoc then the Icon is. If you are sending over 1200 watts per driver, the Havoc would be the safer choice for that level of power as that is pushing it with the Icon.

But putting a 3000D on an Havoc or Icon would not be a good idea unless you know what your doing.

But putting a 3000D on an Havoc or Icon would not be a good idea unless you know what your doing.

Yeah, if you're looking to put 1 of those drivers on that amp, be careful. That is WAY too much power for one sub.

i was looking at doing 2 15's for either sub

I'd go with the Havocs. I am pretty sure they can take the power better.

I vote Xcons when they are released.

When will the xcons be released and will they be made in 15s

Is there a set price on these xcons yet?

The Xcon's will be ready fairly soon, pricing is not released yet, and they will be in 12/15/18.

ok i know i said i was going to get the AA Havocs but ive been brought to light about the SSA Icons and i kno youtube videos do no justice but ive been trying to do a comparison between these two subs... does the SSA icon have a foam or rubber surround? which would sound better in a sealed box? Ported? which one would satisfy my audio needs... better yet which one would last longer? which would go better with a sundown 3000d

As for the ported and sealed it not the the box itself it how it built Ive heard ported boxes pick up more notes than a sealed. If you are going for a daily driver or Sq run the icon in a low tuned box you wont be disappointed