I refuse to use electrical tape. In my 15 years of extensive electrical work, I never ever use electrical tape. I ALWAYS use duct tape and that will never change. BTW I meant to comment that after twisting the wires together, I then twisted them into a bunch, a tight ball, as I always do..but the pics of the ball were blurry.

While driving around, I turned the 4 remote toggles on to see how the lights held up with current draw. They got warm! WTF!Just 4 of the lights, as the other 2 need to be left off after doing the sequence. I'm worried now what'll happen when there's 7 amps hooked to them too.

Here it is: Avatar drivin in the car

heres a vid of the toggle switch rig and doing the sequence to get video

I'm so pissed right now. years ago I was getting 50 foot rolls of 14 gauge speaker wire from walmart. I'm tired of Best Buy shit talking walmart, thinking they know more and have better shit. They DONT know shit at best buy even with special training. So best buy has always carried Monster Cable, 18 times the cost for the name and pretty color, and, generally smaller gauge.

Well walmart stopped selling it years ago. They do monster cable now too. I had rewards card points about to expire at best buy fro purchases made YEARS ago. I had to use them. So I went and got a 100 foot spool for $50. Today I got ready to start running wire and realized... it's 16 gauge! I'm running 14,000 watts RMS. I'm not using 16 gauge. I have 1 50 foot spool of the old walmart 14 gauge that I have saved for this project for YEARS. I have some scrap around too that I used for my old HT way back when I got all this.

So I have a 100 foot spool of 16 gauge bought with a rewards card cupon. Keep it and install with this? Hope I have enough old "cheap" walmart that is just as good if not better?

Sorry if you work at best buy. I've gotten in fights with employees on forums before. Dont take it personally. I have yet to meet a single best buy employee that knows what thiele small paramteres are, winisd, or anything else that means anything..after all their "training". Too expensive for the same shit everyone else sells.

END RANT

alright, i ran to walmart, they have 50 foot spools of 14 gauge scosche for $13 and 50 foot of 12 gauge for $18. its even pretty blue and silver. I think i have enough old yellow to do all this, but if not I can go get more at walmart. Ill take my 16 gauge bb back and get some movies if they let me. gonna go install some wire.

Edited April 25, 201015 yr by kryptonitewhite

alright, i ran to walmart, they have 50 foot spools of 14 gauge scosche for $13 and 50 foot of 12 gauge for $18. its even pretty blue and silver. I think i have enough old yellow to do all this, but if not I can go get more at walmart. Ill take my 16 gauge bb back and get some movies if they let me. gonna go install some wire.

Make sure you do that and more pictures

alright, i ran to walmart, they have 50 foot spools of 14 gauge scosche for $13 and 50 foot of 12 gauge for $18. its even pretty blue and silver. I think i have enough old yellow to do all this, but if not I can go get more at walmart. Ill take my 16 gauge bb back and get some movies if they let me. gonna go install some wire.

Make sure you do that and more pictures

well alright!

so, this morning i woke up motivated (usually it takes me a cpl hours, shower..check email, check forums, drive somewhere...then maybe start working) I was ready to grab the wire I got at BB and start running it. I spent all day running around town like a ree-ree, wasting time. I just grabbed my scrap 14 gauge I've had for years and ran it...all of it except the 2 tweeters... I haven't even opened the roll of yellow yet. It took me all of 10 minutes.

But I'll look at it this way... now i know walmart still carries the cheapest 14 gauge in town. I might get some DVDs instead of the 16 gauge. So the running around was worth it? IDK.

I started a topic a while back, here it is 2 Exodus Maelstrom M-21"s - SSA Car Audio Forum If it wouldn't be too much of a hassle to run some plots that would be great. I have also considered BTLs and XCONs. Problem is, this would be my daily driver so I would have to get some pretty badass midbass to keep up down low.

Oh yeah, I was going to say more pictures, but looks like you already did. Like the toggle switch idea!

Edited April 25, 201015 yr by NCSU ECE

I'm sorry Best Buy! I was steamed, now I'm good. Whenever I shop there, I hear so much about how much better than Walmart BB is. But it's not. So I took the wire back, it' a non-return item, but she did anyway..and it was a rewards purchase, so i need to wait for the awards to be reissued. I picked up Inside Man with the cash portion of the refund, and I'll get The Incredible Hulk or something with the rewards.

I forgot to mension I ordered another roll of 50ft 0 gauge, same place, same wire.

I started a topic a while back, here it is 2 Exodus Maelstrom M-21"s - SSA Car Audio Forum If it wouldn't be too much of a hassle to run some plots that would be great. I have also considered BTLs and XCONs. Problem is, this would be my daily driver so I would have to get some pretty badass midbass to keep up down low.

Oh yeah, I was going to say more pictures, but looks like you already did. Like the toggle switch idea!

I'll reply to this before i click the link... funny you and I did the same thing... looked at the opposite end of the spectrum with BTLs, the Xcons are more suited for your app..but who am I to say <snicker> IB subs..what a dip shit

twice the coil...hmmmm...

What did you do to that coil?!?!?!?!

Hey Kryptonitewhite. I was looking at the pics of the way you wired those toggle switches, if you don't use all three terminals the lights/switch may burn out.

I'd wire a jumper from one to the next and so on then to ground so you don't have issues later, you should ground every switch.

The build looks great so far.

Edited April 27, 201015 yr by cobra93

What did you do to that coil?!?!?!?!

that thing is a year and 1/2 old, its been thrown around, picked at, proded, kids like to unravel it... if you look at the shape of the former, you know full well that couldnt have happened before the cone was cut off. It wouldn't fit around the pole piece and in the gap

Hey Kryptonitewhite. I was looking at the pics of the way you wired those toggle switches, if you don't use all three terminals the lights/switch may burn out.

I'd wire a jumper from one to the next and so on then to ground so you don't have issues later, you should ground every switch.

The build looks great so far.

oops i must not have taken pics of them all wired up... I only use 2 of them right now, for the deck, and they have all 3 hooked up. the other 4 I cant hook the 3rd wire till I run the remotes..and until I run them, I don't use them anyway. when they are off, the lights are off as well. They are all 6 common grounded.

Oh, and thank you!

Edited April 27, 201015 yr by kryptonitewhite

Alright I let the skeleton template cure and pulled the roof back out. It worked well, I traced the skeleton onto cardboard, ripped the template off, and now I'm glassing off the cardboard templates. I haven't thrown the glass matting on yet becuase the cardboard wants to tip. After the first layer cures then I can hit it with more resin, put on glass matt, and hit it with another layer..process repeat.

For everyone that has at least given constructive criticism, who has said "hey I would..because" or "I wouldn't have...because" without being condecending, arrogant, or rude... to everyone that has said "hey, looks nice" "can't wait" subscribed". To everyone with something good to say, even when saying something that could be done different. Thank you all so much! It seems like this will never get done, but you all keep me motivated.

To those of you who think i'm cutting every corner, so far as to say this thing is a hazard to innocent people getting demos once complete. To those that said I messed up bad by choosing to foam instead of doing 2x4's (though this thing has plenty of 2x6's ) without doing so politely. The foam situation has panned out, it needed more time, it has cured. To those that knock my use of duct tape... there is no permentant duct tape other than for my wiring, and what i have used it for other than that thus far has worked great. thanks. For those that think I screwed up by not getting pure copper 0 gauge that cost twice as much ( not the guy from AVS, you have been very helpful man..thank you) For those that think I messed up going with "infinite baffle" drivers ( not the SQ world champ that basically set the parameters for the IB3s ) for those that think its so awful I put the front stage, so to speak..correct or not, in the roof (not you Fallen, we never really cared what you thought anyway ;) ) For those that think it's too much power for the IB3's... well Ive run Lanzar OPTI2000D on them, Hifonics BXi2610D, EP4000, as well as Regent HT-391 showing me just how efficient they can be with no more than 150-200 watts.

For you, well, I'm not gonna use glass matt on the cardboard divider for the 4.5's either...so there! As my boy Fiddy said: I need you to hate. So I can use you for your energy.

But I will use the glass matt where the gap is between the MDF roof and the frame where it meets the windshield

cracked open that spool of 14 gauge and ran the tweets, 4.5's, and one 6.5 with it and used 3 old for the last three 6.5's. Put some caulk in the corner of the resin for a little extra reinforcement and make sure it stays air tight.

Damn thats a big ass panel!

Luckily you have all those spare enclosures handy for weight!

For everyone that has at least given constructive criticism, who has said "hey I would..because" or "I wouldn't have...because" without being condecending, arrogant, or rude... to everyone that has said "hey, looks nice" "can't wait" subscribed". To everyone with something good to say, even when saying something that could be done different. Thank you all so much! It seems like this will never get done, but you all keep me motivated.

To those of you who think i'm cutting every corner, so far as to say this thing is a hazard to innocent people getting demos once complete. To those that said I messed up bad by choosing to foam instead of doing 2x4's (though this thing has plenty of 2x6's ) without doing so politely. The foam situation has panned out, it needed more time, it has cured. To those that knock my use of duct tape... there is no permentant duct tape other than for my wiring, and what i have used it for other than that thus far has worked great. thanks. For those that think I screwed up by not getting pure copper 0 gauge that cost twice as much ( not the guy from AVS, you have been very helpful man..thank you) For those that think I messed up going with "infinite baffle" drivers ( not the SQ world champ that basically set the parameters for the IB3s ) for those that think its so awful I put the front stage, so to speak..correct or not, in the roof (not you Fallen, we never really cared what you thought anyway ;) ) For those that think it's too much power for the IB3's... well Ive run Lanzar OPTI2000D on them, Hifonics BXi2610D, EP4000, as well as Regent HT-391 showing me just how efficient they can be with no more than 150-200 watts.

For you, well, I'm not gonna use glass matt on the cardboard divider for the 4.5's either...so there! As my boy Fiddy said: I need you to hate. So I can use you for your energy.

No, the problem is not with others. Remember your home build, using 2 2x4s to secure 4 sheets of 4x8' MDF together? Everyone said "you need more bracing" but you did it anyway...then came back with "lol I guess you guys were right!" When people were telling to you brace more...even posting pics/links to Elemental Designs builds showing MORE than adequate bracing, it was somehow condescending to you.

When you did this:

...then said the switches got warm, and people told you not to tie 14 wires together with 1 little 14ga for power...you did it anyway. And got butthurt on top of it, even though it's completely opposite of how wiring should be done.

People can say things nicely to you, but it's the "haters gonna hate" attitude which leads people to say things not so nicely to try and get through to you. Yes, this is in regards to DIYMA. It's not "hating" if you're doing something utterly incorrectly!

Found this pic last night...fits perfectly. Haters gonna hate...but you're flying a plane with only 1.5 wings...

Like I say in a lot of threads, I couldn't care less if you cut the top off to make a convertible since it's your vehicle, but the record needs to be set straight.

I don't agree with the use of duct tape. It conducts when moisture is present.

I just looked at that picture more closely... Please do that right, or if you don't want to do it right don't take a picture and show everyone on the internet

Damn thats a big ass panel!

Luckily you have all those spare enclosures handy for weight!

ya I kept her big on purpose... I actually have a gap in the back where I have to make up for it, but, I didn't want to just fiberglass the front speakers to the roof and watch them smoke me in the head from the pressure after ripping off

ya thats my olf HT surround sound there

2 more wall boards... these 2 fit outside the drivers cuz I'm running outta room between the subs and ceiling support/seat stopper

yes could have measured out 18.5" but I wanted them centered perfectly

check..pass

god i hate cutting im so tired of it. poor giu that one the 21" MX makin that curved box.. f that