So that all being said. What do I use for a base tune? ie, I swap my short block, cam/springs, bolt on a turbo and new exhaust and what do I flash to the ECU for the first time?

Have you tried contacting any of the major online tuning companies or did you want to do a dyno tune? I contacted sct for my mustang and it was tunes for life and a tuner for 4xx. Even when I was looking at a supercharger setup. They said they could do a pretty balls on accurate tune for 81/87/93 octane.

Blackbear will "rent" you a box for acquiring or sell you one so they tune to what you have. I just hadn't really ever thought about initial startup before. Was also too cheap to dyno my first car when I built it. Suppose it is the same. Fat and happy. Just didn't know if you could force the ECU to be smart and fat and happy.

Procharger includes a baseline tune you can run on but won't make a ton more power till you a actually get it dialed in more.

I mean when you get it all done you can just have the bof exhaust all boost then take it where ever you need to to get it tuned.

Order a 2 3/4 drop kit with sways

http://tbssowners.com/store/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=180

Panhard bar

http://tbssowners.com/store/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=163

Next is adding the 16/14 Wilwood Brake Kit. Found a used one for $2500 but waiting to really hear on the condition.

Git R Done turbo kit

http://www.kbracing.net/about.html

Short block

http://www.texas-speed.com/p-416-tsp-427-cid-lsx-short-block.aspx

Haven't looked at having a block built up locally, but don't know if that makes me feel better or worse. Part of me of course wants to take it apart and double check everything myself too, but I really just don't have time.

What kind of vehicle/year will you be lowering?

So that all being said. What do I use for a base tune? ie, I swap my short block, cam/springs, bolt on a turbo and new exhaust and what do I flash to the ECU for the first time?

Have you tried contacting any of the major online tuning companies or did you want to do a dyno tune? I contacted sct for my mustang and it was tunes for life and a tuner for 4xx. Even when I was looking at a supercharger setup. They said they could do a pretty balls on accurate tune for 81/87/93 octane.

Blackbear will "rent" you a box for acquiring or sell you one so they tune to what you have. I just hadn't really ever thought about initial startup before. Was also too cheap to dyno my first car when I built it. Suppose it is the same. Fat and happy. Just didn't know if you could force the ECU to be smart and fat and happy.

Procharger includes a baseline tune you can run on but won't make a ton more power till you a actually get it dialed in more.

I mean when you get it all done you can just have the bof exhaust all boost then take it where ever you need to to get it tuned.

I know the kits include a baseline but they also expect no major changes in everything else. Since I am throwing that out the window it is custom time. Just don't understand how you start then.

Order a 2 3/4 drop kit with sways

http://tbssowners.com/store/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=180

Panhard bar

http://tbssowners.com/store/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=163

Next is adding the 16/14 Wilwood Brake Kit. Found a used one for $2500 but waiting to really hear on the condition.

Git R Done turbo kit

http://www.kbracing.net/about.html

Short block

http://www.texas-speed.com/p-416-tsp-427-cid-lsx-short-block.aspx

Haven't looked at having a block built up locally, but don't know if that makes me feel better or worse. Part of me of course wants to take it apart and double check everything myself too, but I really just don't have time.

What kind of vehicle/year will you be lowering?

2010 Cadillac Escalade AWD

Also known as "Big Ugly"

Only the second car I've ever named.

And now you know why I was distracted Stephen

Driveability first, then stereo to match. That way I can pimp around listening to sports radio in the ultimate fidelity

WAY too fucking tall

So that all being said. What do I use for a base tune? ie, I swap my short block, cam/springs, bolt on a turbo and new exhaust and what do I flash to the ECU for the first time?

Have you tried contacting any of the major online tuning companies or did you want to do a dyno tune? I contacted sct for my mustang and it was tunes for life and a tuner for 4xx. Even when I was looking at a supercharger setup. They said they could do a pretty balls on accurate tune for 81/87/93 octane.

Blackbear will "rent" you a box for acquiring or sell you one so they tune to what you have. I just hadn't really ever thought about initial startup before. Was also too cheap to dyno my first car when I built it. Suppose it is the same. Fat and happy. Just didn't know if you could force the ECU to be smart and fat and happy.

Procharger includes a baseline tune you can run on but won't make a ton more power till you a actually get it dialed in more.

I mean when you get it all done you can just have the bof exhaust all boost then take it where ever you need to to get it tuned.

I know the kits include a baseline but they also expect no major changes in everything else. Since I am throwing that out the window it is custom time. Just don't understand how you start then.

I think you might be destined for a dyno only tune. Which can be ridiculous, a local dyno shop here quoted me 300 + 100 and hour and I had to buy my own tuner which is about 5xx or so.

I think you might be destined for a dyno only tune. Which can be ridiculous, a local dyno shop here quoted me 300 + 100 and hour and I had to buy my own tuner which is about 5xx or so.

You missed the question though. How do they start on the dyno? You need a "tune" before you can even fire the motor. 2nd part of the question is why would the dyno be any better at that point that acquiring data on road and using that.

Once there a semblance of a safe tune I am not that concerned. Just don't know where square one starts.

I am absolutely willing AND eager to pay for a tune. Figure it is the best possible lesson I can have. Actually want to start it now. Places like BBP tune for life meaning I can get a tune stock now, get the controller to play with, start modifying and then when I get the other parts in already have some idea wtf things do and what variables you can flip.

Need a dual boost range setup as well. Boost controller in dash for daily and FUCK YOU power are in order.

And now you know why I was distracted Stephen

Yes I now understand.. Time to wall the escalade , JK

I agree that there is a lot of things that aren't worth looking for. I just also see wine as an accessory to food. Most people won't chase food like I do either though.

I think in a gathering of 10 people if you and I are there we may qualify for most people based on volume and reach.

So that all being said. What do I use for a base tune? ie, I swap my short block, cam/springs, bolt on a turbo and new exhaust and what do I flash to the ECU for the first time?

Have you tried contacting any of the major online tuning companies or did you want to do a dyno tune? I contacted sct for my mustang and it was tunes for life and a tuner for 4xx. Even when I was looking at a supercharger setup. They said they could do a pretty balls on accurate tune for 81/87/93 octane.

Blackbear will "rent" you a box for acquiring or sell you one so they tune to what you have. I just hadn't really ever thought about initial startup before. Was also too cheap to dyno my first car when I built it. Suppose it is the same. Fat and happy. Just didn't know if you could force the ECU to be smart and fat and happy.

Procharger includes a baseline tune you can run on but won't make a ton more power till you a actually get it dialed in more.

I mean when you get it all done you can just have the bof exhaust all boost then take it where ever you need to to get it tuned.

I know the kits include a baseline but they also expect no major changes in everything else. Since I am throwing that out the window it is custom time. Just don't understand how you start then.

I think you might be destined for a dyno only tune. Which can be ridiculous, a local dyno shop here quoted me 300 + 100 and hour and I had to buy my own tuner which is about 5xx or so.

Why not get a Hennesey upgrade? Some of the Hennesey camaros, corvettes, cts-v's are pretty badass

Edited April 30, 201411 yr by Stephen93s10

I think, if I did my numbers right today I just slid in at my budget and hit bonus.

Boomshakalaka!

I think you might be destined for a dyno only tune. Which can be ridiculous, a local dyno shop here quoted me 300 + 100 and hour and I had to buy my own tuner which is about 5xx or so.

You missed the question though. How do they start on the dyno? You need a "tune" before you can even fire the motor. 2nd part of the question is why would the dyno be any better at that point that acquiring data on road and using that.

Once there a semblance of a safe tune I am not that concerned. Just don't know where square one starts.

Ah yeah, from my basic experience they usually start at a runnable tune, adjust boost, timings, fuel air ratios, etc till it's as stable and safe as possible. I'm not entirely sure how they base their baseline tune.

Sean, I don't know what that thing will be when you are done, but I wanna go for a ride.

Oh my god.

Prairie breeze cheddar.

Little slices on a nut crustini.

Also an amazing 4 onion spread.

Take me now oh rapture.

Also, prednisone saved my life. I'm no longer walking funny.

Fucking awesomesauce.

This some real shit boys.

http://www.miltoncreamery.com/cheese/prairie-breeze.html

This is also the bees knees.

http://www.thegraciousgourmet.com/shop/balsamic-four-onion-spread/

Put it on these....

http://www.lesleystowe.com/the-crisps.html

The originals I believe... And good god damn.