I just don't understand how a turbo can be illegal, but a S/C isn't. Fucking crazy.

Turbos are not CARB certified and technically due to the fact that they modify your exhaust can be considered an emissions violation depending on the laws where you live.

Superchargers come without exhaust modification, therefore no emission system changes.

 

I just don't understand how a turbo can be illegal, but a S/C isn't. Fucking crazy.

 

 

Read above your quote here.  It's all about the exhaust.  They COULD be CARB legal, but the money and time would make the kits too expensive and would never sell, so it's pointless.  Any time you make any part of the exhaust different from OEM, you are in violation.

Any exhaust modifications???? WTF? So then my wider exhaust on my Jetta was illegal too?

Every bike slip on can too?

Mind blown...

Yes and yes, but you have to keep in mind, this instance is only in places where emission testing is involved.    Generally a muffler will not impact or most systems from the cats back, but it is the discretion of the tester.  They could easily fail you on a visual test.  If it's louder, they could fail you on dB test, etc. . .

Father is going to be teaching me to weld tomorrow, then I can start on the wall cage.

A good skill to have and fun to build stuff. What style of welding are you learning? TIG, MIG, Arc, or just Brazing?

I'm stoked they don't give a shit about emissions in western CO. Ppl be driving rock buggy's down the road. 

No way I'd install a SC myself. You better cough up the extra dough and bring it to a reputable tuner.

 

 

No way I'd install a SC myself. You better cough up the extra dough and bring it to a reputable tuner.

I have done it before. I will be getting a dyno tune after. U

 

 

Yeah, installing it isn't a huge deal. Getting it tuned is a different story. The GM modular V8 is a simple motor to tear into. I can have the heads on the floor in an hour to an hour and a half.

 

 

 

@ Seth.

 

I have a pen atm that they sell preloaded BHO cartridges for. I do my own extraction's so just need to find loadable cartridge's.

 

 

I do my own extraction as well.

 

What threads? Or what battery are you using?

 

I am using the Seego Vhit type C atomizer. https://candyvape.com/SEEGO-VHIT-C-VAPORIZER?search=SEEGO&description=true

 

They also have a type B that looks more like a traditional tank. But in some cases, depending on your battery, you may need to get an adapter.

 

I have tried blending and using a standard cart, but I didn't like it as much. My first try was in a mini tank I have.

It is the eGo-T joytech. I believe this one. It was given to me.

http://www.joyetech.com/product/eGoT.php

 

Funny we got on the topic of vaping bc I made the wifey go get me blu this morning as I have been a dick for the last month cold turkeying it. lol

Dude, I did the Blu thing and it was worthless. The batteries last about 30 minutes, the carts do not last long at all and are terribly weak. I was about to give up until I was turned on to the Halo G6. Totally different situation. I haven't smoked since. A good e-cig is a tremendous help.

 

The Joytech is a solid ego. It will accept the bulb I linked. You already have a good battery, so get a tank. Since you have friends with a vape shop have them turn you on to a good tank (amazing tanks can be had for $20-30, decent ego tanks will go for as low as $5). Try looking at a bottom coil clearomizer. They are easy to use, easy to fill, and easy to maintain. Get some juices and fill up your own tanks.

I made the wifey go buy the blu bc I would of bought a pack of lemaC's instead. lol

 

I had talked to my friend's, when I did a half sleeve on one of them a few months ago, and the said they could get me dry herb cartridges. Just haven't had time to get to it.

 

Dry is completely different from oil. You need an essential oil vaporizer. Huge difference. The dry will burn hotter and cause the BHO to taste burned, and a ton will be wasted. In the Seego I can toss in an 1/8 of a gram and roll hard for days, even better then a cig or titanium nail. It lasts easily 30% longer, maybe upwards of 50%. I started a few weeks ago and have tried several methods, because I tossed my dab in the end of a cig too... So trust me when I tell you, the Seego or the budder ball are the way to go. I prefer the Seego because nothing runs off the nail into the ball. With the open atomizers it runs into the ball and needs to be cleaned with an iso soak. I'll post some pics, and a friend's opinion tomorrow. He is a hard core dabber, so his input will be HUGE. I am stopping by his joint tomorrow so he can try a few things I have been working on. I want to be sure it is easy on the lungs, tastes great, and does it's job with the best efficiency.

Turbos are not CARB certified and technically due to the fact that they modify your exhaust can be considered an emissions violation depending on the laws where you live.

Superchargers come without exhaust modification, therefore no emission system changes.

 

>I just don't understand how a turbo can be illegal, but a S/C isn't. Fucking crazy.

 

 

Read above your quote here.  It's all about the exhaust.  They COULD be CARB legal, but the money and time would make the kits too expensive and would never sell, so it's pointless.  Any time you make any part of the exhaust different from OEM, you are in violation.

 

 

Depends on the exhaust system. An esky goes 2 into one, but it does run 2 cats. So it must feed exhaust thought both cats before the turbo. While not impossible, it is a nightmare.

 

FWIW a Turbo is not optimal for towing. A turbo (particularly intercooled) requires engine RPM and exhaust flow. You can compensate by using a loose converter, but you build heat. This heat buildup is an extremely bad thing when yanking weight behind you. IMO, while I am not a big supercharger fan (sorry, I owned a built to fuck GN), an SC makes more sense in Sean's case.

Any exhaust modifications???? WTF? So then my wider exhaust on my Jetta was illegal too?

 

No, as long as you maintain the stock configuration of your exhaust it is legal. You cannot go from a 2 cat system to a one cat system.

Any exhaust modifications???? WTF? So then my wider exhaust on my Jetta was illegal too?

No, as long as you maintain the stock configuration of your exhaust it is legal. You cannot go from a 2 cat system to a one cat system.

Awash it's all about the cats!

Yes and yes, but you have to keep in mind, this instance is only in places where emission testing is involved.    Generally a muffler will not impact or most systems from the cats back, but it is the discretion of the tester.  They could easily fail you on a visual test.  If it's louder, they could fail you on dB test, etc. . .

 

As an inspector (or former inspector) for NY, CA, and NC I can state completely, 100% without question; anything after the cat does not create a failure for emissions. In all cases the sound ordinance is not the inspector's problem. All we care about is mods up to, and including, the cat. In all cases CARB certified headers and exhaust mods pre-cat DO pass. Air pump and possible EGR issues come into play but on my GN I had a state forced SMOG test (sometimes Cali would force you to bring your vehicle to a state run facility instead of a private run facility) and my headers, turbo, and 3 inch Terry Houston downpipe all passed emissions inspection.

Awash=ah ha

Turbos are not CARB certified and technically due to the fact that they modify your exhaust can be considered an emissions violation depending on the laws where you live.

Superchargers come without exhaust modification, therefore no emission system changes.

 

>I just don't understand how a turbo can be illegal, but a S/C isn't. Fucking crazy.

 

 

Read above your quote here.  It's all about the exhaust.  They COULD be CARB legal, but the money and time would make the kits too expensive and would never sell, so it's pointless.  Any time you make any part of the exhaust different from OEM, you are in violation.

 

Depends on the exhaust system. An esky goes 2 into one, but it does run 2 cats. So it must feed exhaust thought both cats before the turbo. While not impossible, it is a nightmare.

 

FWIW a Turbo is not optimal for towing. A turbo (particularly intercooled) requires engine RPM and exhaust flow. You can compensate by using a loose converter, but you build heat. This heat buildup is an extremely bad thing when yanking weight behind you. IMO, while I am not a big supercharger fan (sorry, I owned a built to fuck GN), an SC makes more sense in Sean's case.

I tow a 2,000lb trailer for 99% of my towing. Stock it has plenty of power for towing it. Figure a turbo does make sense for the economy of it and lack of extra load on the rest of the engine to compensate for spinning the charger.

So something like the STS rear mount system would be legit?

I thought turbochargers were best at creating high TQ situations, and that is why they are used with diesels so often. I don't think I have ever seen a supercharged diesel.....

Probably not the same thing, but all combustion engines are basically big air pumps so my dumb ass logic would think.....

I am totally wasted on the Brooklyn Brewery Black Chocolate Stout. I bought 2 4 packs and went beck to the shop. I had 4, 1 other tech had 3 and my service manager had 1. I bought all 3 remaining 4 packs on my way home, and drank 5 more beers. I got out of work 3 hours ago. At 10% these are solid alcohol beers... Yeah, I am wasted and I just opened another...

 

Holy FUCK these are tasty. You guys who like real beer MUST TRY THESES!!!!

Found my new car.

 

http://southbend.craigslist.org/bar/4237549261.html

So something like the STS rear mount system would be legit?

I thought turbochargers were best at creating high TQ situations, and that is why they are used with diesels so often. I don't think I have ever seen a supercharged diesel.....

Probably not the same thing, but all combustion engines are basically big air pumps so my dumb ass logic would think.....

Hanging a turbo way away from the heat source in a salt bath in MN doesn't seem like a good idea to me though

Ryan

One set of rims on one side, another on the other.

LoL

So something like the STS rear mount system would be legit?

I thought turbochargers were best at creating high TQ situations, and that is why they are used with diesels so often. I don't think I have ever seen a supercharged diesel.....

Probably not the same thing, but all combustion engines are basically big air pumps so my dumb ass logic would think.....

Hanging a turbo way away from the heat source in a salt bath in MN doesn't seem like a good idea to me though

Agreed, but you will have dround clearance to make a shroud for it no problem.

It is not ideal perhaps. I'm spitballing.

You also know huge snails give me fat rubbery ones. I like turbos, what can I say?

I am totally wasted on the Brooklyn Brewery Black Chocolate Stout. I bought 2 4 packs and went beck to the shop. I had 4, 1 other tech had 3 and my service manager had 1. I bought all 3 remaining 4 packs on my way home, and drank 5 more beers. I got out of work 3 hours ago. At 10% these are solid alcohol beers... Yeah, I am wasted and I just opened another...

Holy FUCK these are tasty. You guys who like real beer MUST TRY THESES!!!!

They sound great!!!

 

 

Turbos are not CARB certified and technically due to the fact that they modify your exhaust can be considered an emissions violation depending on the laws where you live.

Superchargers come without exhaust modification, therefore no emission system changes.

 

>I just don't understand how a turbo can be illegal, but a S/C isn't. Fucking

crazy.

 

 

Read above your quote here.  It's all about the exhaust.  They COULD be CARB legal, but the money and time would make the kits too expensive and would never sell, so it's pointless.  Any time you make any part of the exhaust different from OEM, you are in violation.

 

 

Depends on the exhaust system. An esky goes 2 into one, but it does run 2 cats. So it must feed exhaust thought both cats before the turbo. While not impossible, it is a nightmare.

 

FWIW a Turbo is not optimal for towing. A turbo (particularly intercooled) requires engine RPM and exhaust flow. You can compensate by using a loose converter, but you build heat. This heat buildup is an extremely bad thing when yanking weight behind you. IMO, while I am not a big supercharger fan (sorry, I owned a built to fuck GN), an SC makes more sense in Sean's case.

I tow a 2,000lb trailer for 99% of my towing. Stock it has plenty of power for towing it. Figure a turbo does make sense for the economy of it and lack of extra load on the rest of the engine to compensate for spinning the charger.

 

 

If I were towing I would go SC. No question. A turbo is my preference, but in all honesty I think you would be happier with an SC, just based on what I have read about your driving preference and requirements.

 

So something like the STS rear mount system would be legit?

I thought turbochargers were best at creating high TQ situations, and that is why they are used with diesels so often. I don't think I have ever seen a supercharged diesel.....

Probably not the same thing, but all combustion engines are basically big air pumps so my dumb ass logic would think.....

A PD blower, not centrifugal though.  Not in that heavy bitch.