Posted October 31, 201311 yr Popular Post I found this pretty relevant and interesting audiopulse`s site... enjoySUBWOOFER MYTHS# 1 Subwoofers have an RMS ratingSpeakersactually have a very complex thermal compression relationship andcertainly can not be quantified by just one or two numbers typicallycalled RMS and Program or Peak. Because voice coils in traditionaldrivers are inherently resistors, any amount of voltage generates someamount of heat which then adversely changes the resistance andproperties of the speaker. This is the principle of thermal compression:As the voice coil heats up, the resistance changes and the efficiencyand performance of the driver decrease until the point of maximumthermal compression. There are some unique types of materials that have aclose to zero temperature coefficient and of course there is alsosuperconducting metals that operate at subzero temperatures with noindications of any sort of resistance. In theory, only these types ofmaterials would have no thermal compression, but they are not employedor very practical yet. Copper and Aluminum are still the two most widelyused materials for voice coils. Both copper and aluminum heat upconsiderably and the resistance changes as a function temperature, andthere lies the problem, therefore a discrete RMS scalar value isentirely inappropriate.Under heavy use, the TSP parameters canshift as much as 35% and in a generally un-favored direction. (higherQts, lower sensitivity). The common ultra high RMS ratings we see oflarge and expensive subwoofers are at best marketing ploys to make thedriver seem far more worthy than it is, or in fact they are reallyintended to give the customer an idea of what type of amplifier to buy.The fact is, even the highest “RMS” rated subwoofers in the world inexcess of 5 digit figures will begin to compress with far less powerthan you would ever image, try only a few hundred watts! (no joke!). Nowthis doesn’t mean you still don’t need lots of power to reach themaximum potential of the driver. As a rule of thumb, the amplifiershould be much more capable than what the driver needs on average. Forexample, quick short bursts will produce huge SPL’s and the voice coilwill not have time to heat up as much, but longer term high power usewill result in considerable performance regression if not failure fromglues giving way due to heat or differences in the thermal expansion ofmaterials around the glues. Under heavy use thermal compression limitsbegin to play a large part in SPL but most people are oblivious to thisconcept. It is true that woofers can be used well into their thermalcompression state, and typically that is what occurs. As the powerincreases linearity, the SPL does not increase linearly. This is someform of compression, usually thermally related unless the woofer isbeyond or close to xmax. In an ideal non-compression circumstance ofeither power, BL or otherwise, you can expect a 3dB increase every timethe power is doubled. Rarely does this ever occur, in extremelycompressed and dangerous states it can be less than 1dB!As awoofers reaches its very limits, unless failure occurs there will becomea point where the resistance of the voice coil is rising faster thanthe power going into the subwoofer. When the resistance doubles as thepower doubles then absolute thermal compression has set in. In practiceyou can’t actually increase the power from the amplifier because mostamplifiers start to produce less power as the resistance increasesbecause almost every car, home and pro audio amplifier is a constantvoltage source rather than a constant current source. So in a way thisphenomenon is a self limited occurrence that accidentally works toprotect the driver. However, running the driver at or near the maximumthermal compression limit will likely result in rapid failure.Ultimately, thermal compression is a very large but unavoidableshortcoming of mass controlled transducers. Likely, compliancecontrolled transducers, or rather subsonic transducers are not limitedby their thermal properties as much, but rather their compliance orlinear limits (xmax). It is believed by a few experts in the field thatthermal compression plays a much greater role in linearity anddistortion than we know of, but it’s rarely discussed.# 2 More xmax means more SPLSubwooferdrivers really can be broken down in two categories: “Mass” controlleddrivers and “compliance” controlled drivers. Mass controlled driverstend to have low xmax and high sensitivity. These tend to be punchy andvery loud and mostly used in live concerts for sound reinforcement oreven car SPL competitions. Compliance controlled subwoofers which tendto be the majority of car audio subwoofers have high xmax, more weight,lower sensitivity, but more SPL in the lower frequency spectrum. Thenthere are of course hybrid drivers which are basically mixes of the two.Any driver in these categories can sound good or bad, but moreimportant is being able to use the woofer where it performs the best.Using a low xmax woofer for subsonic content is probably not wise,likewise using a high xmax low sensitivity driver for soundreinforcement is not going to be very effective. In truth, there is nobest driver and most drivers can overlap these zones with good results.We are not really used to the idea of a two way subwoofer, but as wedemand more and more SPL and deeper bass, we may some day find that twodifferent types of subwoofers used together are required to get the fullreference SPL effect we all hunger for!So yes, more specifiedxmax does mean more SPL but only for lower frequencies. Generallyspeaking, during lower frequencies, the driver tends to run out ofusable throw (beyond xmax) before high thermal compression states occurand mechanical failure is a greater risk. 0-40Hz is primarilymechanical, 40-60 is in between) 60 and up is going to be more thermallylimited. 0-20Hz is the subsonic content and in fact there are moreefficient methods of producing bass in this spectrum rather than aregular piston based transducer. Surprisingly, even the largest driverswith high xmax and big voice coils can be bottomed out or run past asafe mechanical state with only a few hundred watts if the frequenciesare low enough. Without a high pass (subsonic) filter, or in a low tunedsystem, bottoming out or breaking a driver could be a very realpossibility without careful modeling and testing. The difference indisplacement from 40Hz to 20Hz or rather half the frequency, or oneoctave, is quadruple! In the simple large sealed box example, that meansif your woofer displacement is 1” peak to peak at 40Hz, you’ll bottomout just about anything in existence by the time you dip below 20Hzwithout protection.Often times when people want more SPL, theyreally need higher sensitivity in the form of higher BL product or lessmoving mass, rather than more xmax because 50-60Hz is really what theyare after. This is a very sensual frequency range for humans and much ofthe bass in music content exists in that frequency domain.# 3 Subwoofers are fast / slowMoreappropriately labeled Damping or Ringing, these concepts are reallyreciprocals of one another have nothing to do with speed, tightness,“boomieness” or any other misused and inappropriate term for subwoofers.Subwoofers, or rather bass drivers, all move at the same frequency wheninstructed to via an input single. The difference is really about the Qalignment of the system. There are many famous Q alignments whichproduce various frequency responses, but beyond the complex mathematicsis a fundamental principal of force and acceleration and the driver willrespond to a sinusoidal wave at various accelerations depending on themoving mass and force that the voice coil and motor generate on thecone. Therefore any driver can be faster or slower depending simply onthe voltage! It makes little sense to call any driver faster or slower.Dampingor Ringing is really what we’re after and the amount of either isreally a function of system volume along with the electro-mechanicaldamping factor of the driver. For example, in a sealed box system, asthe volume of the cabinet becomes small, the internal pressures increasewhen the driver pushes in and out. This pressure is a force which, notnearly as strong as the electromotive damping force, works in theopposite direction. Contrary to intuition, higher internal pressure(which we tend to associate with tightness or stiffness) decreasesdamping and promotes ringing at one particular frequency (Fc in the caseof a sealed box). The pressure from the air inside the box worksagainst the driver’s natural damping factor of 1/(Qts). When thepressure becomes large relative to the motor’s damping factor, thedriver will ring more and cause a peak in SPL at the given resonatefrequency (Fc). This tends to be somewhere around 40-60Hz in a givensealed box, but could be outside that range under abnormalcircumstances. This peak is ill desired and is accountable to theproclaimed “boomy” sounding subwoofers which tend to lack clarity, goodtransit response and dynamics. However some people prefer some ringingbecause it provides a natural boost in a very audible frequency band.Likewise, in a larger box, the Q will decrease and the ringing and SPLaround that frequency will too, but the low end will open up and you’llhave more deep bass. This tends to sound better and more controlled.Onthe flip side, over dampened drivers tend to have poor low frequencyresponse and require equalization to boost the low frequencies. Theytend to work better in vented boxes where their larger motor forcefactor (BL^2/Re) is put to good use with a resonator which then makesthe low end much more efficient with its increased displacement.Likewise, drivers with high Qts will work better in sealed boxes andshould be exempt from being used in a ported system without carefulconsideration. When high Q drivers are used in a vented system they willring at the tuning frequency of the box (Fb in this case) and the“boomy” problem is considerably worse.# 4 Ported boxes don’t sound as good as sealedInmost cases this is strictly a result of linear response vs non-linearresponse and it could go both ways. 4th order systems or “vented” boxestend to be far more particular to volume, port size and length and thedriver TPS’s rather than sealed systems. Misalignments are thereforeamplified and greatly affect the frequency response. Often times in caraudio, ported boxes are not tuned low enough, or the volume is too largeand there is a large peak in the frequency response from literately toomuch sensitivity or SPL at a very narrow frequency band. The otherissue is if the driver does not have enough BL or has too high of a Qtsand becomes under damped at resonance. This again leads to drastic peaksat the resonating frequency; however in this case, the driver will bepeaky there regardless of content and it will sound ultimately lessdynamic and very bottom heavy. However, a well designed vented box mayhave considerably lower distortion and higher dynamics than a sealed boxbecause of the added SPL gained from the port without increasing theactive driver displacement requirements. Sealed systems evoke the mostnon-linear driver behavior to reach any given SPL, so in fact, theycould be the worst sounding system if your SPL demands are considerable.It is important to model a ported design or ask the manufacture for arecommendation. It is also critical to include a high pass filter on theactive driver in a ported box for protection.# 5 Subwoofers care what they playYoursubwoofer driver does not have a conscience, and it does not performbetter with one type of music over another. It’s just a driver. Goodsubwoofer systems will play all types of music or movie material verywell. A bad subwoofer system may have a null or peak in the frequencyresponse that may benefit some material over others but essentially thisnon-linear behavior is not ideal. It is true that movies have lowerfrequency content and perhaps more dynamic bass than music, especiallywith the recent compressed CD’s of the last 10 or so years, but a goodsystem can be used for movies and music alike if it is indeed a “good”system.It is also true that it tends to be more important toemphasize subsonic frequencies in the home theater environment versusthe music environment where there is simply less emphasis on subsonicinaudible material. As a tradeoff, you can align a system to be moreefficient above 30Hz or so. This trade off reduces the bandwidth butincreases the SPL. Careful consideration should be taken to insurelinear response is still maintained. It is very easy to have peaky basswith low Q drivers in high tuned ported systems. This is approaching theconcept of basic SPL vehicles which use low Q, highly sensitive driverstuned very high for very narrow but ferociously peaky response. Suchsystems are not very ideal for listing to music material of any kind. Ifyou want your system louder, then it is better to add a second driver,more volume and more amplification, rather than tuning higher. It isimportant to understand that getting more SPL without compromise isnever very cheap!# 6 Sealed box can take more power than portedThereis some truth to this, and some myth, but as far as the thermal limitsof the driver are concerned, it can’t take more power one way oranother. However, in a sealed box the driver will require more power toreach the same SPL as the frequency range lowers. A ported system issimply more efficient so it wont need as much power to reach the sameSPL. Based on the mechanical limits of a driver, different frequenciescan take different power loads. At higher frequencies, driver can bepushed hard and won’t necessarily be in a mechanical-risk state. Howeverthe driver tends to be in a higher thermal compression state and couldbe thermally at risk. This is true for both ported and sealed boxes.However, for lower frequencies, the sealed box also acts as a filter in away because the internal air pressure prevents the driver from overexcursion. In a sealed box, the compliance of the suspension systemalmost always forgoes that of the air spring system unless the box isvery large. In a vented box, there is no pressure to protect the driverand furthermore, when the system unloads below resonance, the activedriver’s excursion increases exponentially and a high pass (subsonic)filter is critical to prevent mechanical failure.# 7 Sensitivity does not matter for subwoofersSensitivityis indeed very important for subwoofers. Not all frequencies arelimited by xmax. In fact, most of the bass frequencies for music arereally limited by sensitivity or more accurately BL product and movingmass, but not by maximum driver displacement. Higher sensitivity meansmore SPL and ultimately better performance especially for upper basspunch or kick such as a “kick drum” which resonates at 63Hz. In fact,all good SPL competition drivers need to have high sensitivity not xmax!Thereare several standards for sensitivity. SPL at 2.83 volts or SPL at onewatt. The SPL at one watt is the more accurate number as 2.83 voltscould correlate to more than 1 watt which would not be relativelyappropriate to go by. Also sensitivity is a function of, in part, thedriver’s cone area which is never quite explicit and could beexaggerated slightly. Ultimately as engineers, we do strive for highsensitivity because not all bass resides in subsonic domain and manygood sounding subwoofers are in fact good because they have greatsensitivity and not necessarily high xmax.# 8 Smaller drivers sound better than bigger driversOneof the biggest myths about woofers is that 8’s and 10’s are “tighter”and “cleaner” than 15’s or 18’s. Nothing is further from the truth. Whattends to happen is that the smaller drivers have lower Q’s becausemanufactures tend to put large cones on smaller motors to increase SPLand sensitivity but not BL product. Well unless the motor can compensatefor the extra mass it has to push, then the Qts will not be the same asthe smaller drivers and ultimately the driver may not be suited for thesame kinds of alignments and could ring too much and compromise theperceived sound quality. Having said that, high Qts drivers are not anyless “tight” or “musical” than well dampened drivers, it’s just theyrequire larger boxes and less internal pressure to prevent ringing.Ultimately there becomes a point where a driver really should be used inan infinite baffle where its actual Qts and Fs becomes the system Qtcand Fc. As enclosure volume decreases, Qtc increases and it will take adriver with a low Qts to make for an average Q system. So in conclusion,the only reason to use a smaller bass driver is for space, weight andpotentially power considerations, but likewise, it is inappropriate totry and fit a larger driver into a space smaller than it is ideal for.# 9 I can compare two drivers using the same boxWhatyou will find is primarily how different TSP’s work in different boxes.And the differences usually observed are of course differences in TPS’swith a given system, rather than performance. The best way to comparetwo drivers is to make two different systems based on the driver itselfand ensure that the frequency responses are linear to the range youdesire, and then compare those two systems in terms of dynamic headroom,SPL and distortion. Simply saying one system is “louder” or “deeper” inthe same box is inappropriate. In one case it could be a something assimple as an under dampened driver ringing a lot more than an overdampened one at resonance causing a larger peak in low frequenciesthroughout. It does not mean it’s louder or deeper or better outright,it is simply non-linear, and all bets are off. Proper enclosure deignsand/or EQ should be used for any system.#10 cone material affects the soundForlow frequencies, the cone on a driver makes no difference in the soundwhatsoever. The only possible affect it could have is in the case of ametal cone or very stiff composite cone that resonates at a highfrequencies and buzzes. However this frequency would be up around 1000to 2000Hz: Well beyond a bass driver’s usable limits.Variouscone materials are used for various purposes. Some cones, such ascomposite core with fiberglass or carbon fiber skins are extremely lightand very stiff, especially when pressed with epoxy. Other cones such asaluminum provide excellent thermal cooling to decrease voice coiloperating temperatures when the heat is conducted though the (ifpossible) conductive former. The cones job is to push air, not break,and ideally not be too heavy (easier said that done). But they don’tchange the tone, pitch or timbre of a subwoofer system whatsoever.Anyone who tells you otherwise is probably hearing differences in themotor distortion, likely related to BL, compliance or other non-lineardistortions not relating to the cone.#11 bigger magnet means more magnetic forceThemotor is essentially the steel and magnets on the bottom of the driver.Its job to create a magnetic circuit that has an air gap where fluxlines cross in one direction so that a coil can rest in this field andcarry current which then produces a force up and down and moves thepiston to create SPL. The force that this motor creates is dependent onthe amount of power or rather current inside the conductor F = B*L*I. Sowe need a more intuitive understanding of how a motor affects adriver’s performance without considering how much current it receives.This is the simple concept of “force factor”. Larger motors will ideallyhave higher force factors, but this number not only affected by themotor, its affected by the voice coil size, length, distance to themotor (gap) and conductive martial used too. The end result is in factthe BL squared divided by Re (resistance of the vc). This is literallyNewtons squared per watt and is called the force factor. The higher thenumber, the more efficient the motor voice coil combination is and themore performance you get out of the motor.BL, one of the many TSparameters you are probably somewhat familiar with. It is literally themagnetic field “B” crossed with the conductor length “L.” L does not infact depend on the number of turns on the voice coil, but rather theactual cross section area of the coil itself which is inside the gap.While force factor is entirely important for any high performancedriver, one should also consider the moving mass. A 600 horse powerengine in a semi truck is pretty typical, but in a sports car it’scertainly something to gloat about. Together, the force factor, movingmass and the piston area account for sensitivity. This number is veryimportant even for subwoofers, especially for frequencies above ~60Hz.#12 Double bass kick, only good sounding drivers can do itWehave all heard that only good “SQ” drivers can do double bass kickbecause they have good transient response or something to that extent.This is really nothing more than linear frequency response and lack ofring. If high Q subwoofers are in small boxes or if low Q subwoofers arein large ported boxes, the frequency response of the system will likelybe greatly non-linear. This non-linear response compromises relativeSPL and can drown out certain sounds and frequencies. Room acoustics canalso do the same thing. The same subwoofer may sound completelydifferent in another room simply because there could be poor couplingand non-linear frequency response as a result of standing waves andpeaks in the response curve. A peak at 80Hz may make for a rather anemic60Hz response, and while 60Hz appears to be the problem, it’s actuallyfrom the nonlinear response else where! The bottom line is “double basskicks” are usually not a function of the driver or driver’s performancebut rather the system design, linear frequency and room equalization.Oftentimes people associate double bass as something to do with speed andonly good drivers are fast. Believe it or not, even the largest andheaviest drivers, have no problem producing low frequencies, even 300Hzis a relatively slow long wavelength with a slow impulse time.Subwoofers are in fact MUCH faster than you would expect. Bottom lineis, the lack of double bass, within the working limits of a driver, isnot a problem with the driver so much as it is probably a problem withthe system design, room and/or EQ settings.#13 Transient response is better with sealed boxesThefact is “transient response” is truly misleading and probably entirelyunimportant at least for low frequency response. What people hear isreally a function of the linear frequency response and distortion. It isoften accepted that transient is a function of timing, but our abilityto hear differences of a few milliseconds of low frequencies is quitenegligible which is why the low frequency group delay of a 4th ordersystem is quite unimportant next to the sensitivity advantages provided.Transient does not exclusively depend on sealed or ported designs, highQ, low Q, in fact, even drivers with high inductance don’t outrightsuffer from “transient response” insofar as we can physicallydistinguish certain sporadic behaviors because within their workingrange, they may be very efficient and dynamic. The fact is, what makesbass indeed bass, are long wavelengths that take considerable time topass our ears. The perception of transient is really a function ofperceived sound quality and there is really not appropriate example forgood “transient response”. We as humans hear two things, distortion andSPL, and in the end that’s really want matters. What does improve“transient” response or perceived quality is usually more headroom, moredrivers (usually larger boxes depending on the Qts of the driver),better efficiency and ultra low distortion within the prescribed limitsof the system or drivers within the system. Sealed systems in fact don’toffer better transient response no more than ported even with theirlower group delay tendencies, at least to human ears!#14 It’s a bigger driver, then I need a bigger ampOftentimes larger drivers require less amplification, that’s sort of theidea. The concept of bigger woofers need more power is not always trueand plays right into the ever progressing misconception of car audio.What you should consider is the efficiency of the subwoofer. Efficiencywill literally tell you how much acoustic output you will get given anamount of power (assuming linear limits of course). If the driver isbigger, has a larger motor and has a higher sensitivity, there is nomystery about it, you are going to get more SPL with the same amplifierprovided the impedance is similar and the amplifier can produce highvoltage at impedance peaks when the driver naturally draws very littlecurrent for a narrow range. If a driver is more efficient and has alarger voice coil, well you just got your cake and you can now eat it.Not only will it be louder, but it will have less thermal compressionand ultimately more sound provided all else is equal (but such is notusually not the case). It’s often difficult to make voice coils largerand increase sensitivity too. This usually requires very large motorsand expense. Sensitivity is most easily achieved by weight reductionusually from the cone surround and voice coil. Sensitivity is often atrade off of xmax and thermal compression limits.However thereare many larger drivers that don’t have ultra high sensitivity. A goodpro audio subwoofer may have 6 to 10dB higher sensitivity over anaverage high excursion car audio subwoofer. That advantage makes themvery capable with quite a bit less power at least for their frequencyrange which is usually above 40Hz. Likewise, SPL drivers ironicallyenough don’t need much power either! Let me repeat. True SPL driversironically enough don’t need much power! That’s because they are used inthe higher frequency domain not limited by displacement and generallyhave great sensitivity numbers. They need this in order to get theexcursion and ultimately SPL they need to win contests. High sensitivityand lots of power means lots of SPL provided the driver is stillreasonably linear and does not physically break of course. Note:Strictly for SPL contest, drivers are normally burped at Fc (systemresonance) which is the point of maximum current draw and minimum activedriver displacement which is why excessive power must be used. Do notconfuse that requirement with the much lower power requirements forsound reproduction outside that single SPL frequency. It’s important youknow the TSP’s of the driver you buy, otherwise it could be the wrongdriver for you! Who buys a car without knowing the horsepower? Justbecause a driver big and the manufacture claims pie in the sky RMSnumbers doesn’t mean a thing!#15 Neodymium will lose its strength with heatOfcourse it will, and so will ceramic motors too, but the fact is, undereven extreme operating conditions, it’s not likely the motor will everreach these temperatures. There is just too much steel to absorb theheat from the voice coil in almost any practical case. In practice,gradual demagnetization due to use simply does not occur. We have beenmaking high power neodymium based drivers for many years now and we havenever once measured a discernible number from heat.WhileNeodymium is nearly 10 times as strong as a similar sized ceramicmagnets, it can cost up to 50 times too which is almost exclusively whyit is not used often. Also, traditional overhung motors, which accountfor more than 95% of all car audio designs, can get everything they needout of a ceramic magnet assembly and stronger neodymium would beperhaps unnecessary. If we could use neo more, we would, but becauseit’s a patented martial, it’s just not economically practical for mostdesigns. Furthermore, in order the magnetize neodymium, A magnetizerwith over twice as much power and energy needs to be used. Manymanufactures lack the capabilities of even magnetizing neodymium, so itbecomes impractical to not only use it, but to manufacture.#16 Its all about maximum displacementADIY’er favorite statistic, displacement / dollars. If you’reconsidering any bass above 40Hz then throw it out the door right now.Often times people assume that simply because one or more drivers havemore maximum displacement over another type of woofer, than they willultimately be the better performer(s). In many cases this is true, butit’s not true in general. Displacement alone does not guarantee SPL. Infact, SPL depends on not only displacement, but frequency range,sensitivity, box size, and BL product too. This is simply a matter ofconverting energy into acoustic sound pressure level and differentdevices work more efficiently than others for different frequencyranges. For subwoofers, it is generally accepted that BL product is thedominate factor that accounts for much of the performance or rathersystem efficiency, especially in a bass reflex or more complex systemwhere there is a lot of air mass to displace. But keep in mind,depending on the type of system, size, frequency range, power andthermal limits, there may be even more critical and dependent variablesthat determine the overall performance of a system. None the less, highdisplacement is usually a good indicator that the subwoofer can excel indeep bass SPL. Of course there are other factors to consider dependingon the system of system.
March 9, 201411 yr hmmm, interesting...I couldn't help but notice all the grammatical errors in such a "definitave" and alledgedly "informative" article! Edited March 9, 201411 yr by THX_Elite
March 17, 201411 yr i found it an interesting read even with the spelling mistakes. that said it seems that M5 gave it a thumbs down so id take its conclusions with a full shaker of salt.
May 4, 201510 yr 'It is also true that it tends to be more important toemphasize subsonic frequencies in the home theater environment versusthe music environment where there is simply less emphasis on subsonicinaudible material.' Atually there are quite a few EDM genres that use infrasound, epsecially dubstep, trap and street bass. So if you're going for a sub for that kind of music you would need a good sub to reproduce those low tones. I did catch some spelling errors but I guess spelling doesn't really count if you can get the point. It's not enligh class.
May 5, 201510 yr Atually there are quite a few EDM genres that use infrasound, epsecially dubstep, trap and street bass. So if you're going for a sub for that kind of music you would need a good sub to reproduce those low tones.The article isn't worth reading, but that has something similar with your post. Those may be "genres" but they aren't of music. Really odd you joined to bump a 3 year old crap post.
April 12, 20205 yr I just came across a yes, I will gain more flexibility if I use a subwoofer instead of the placement-sensitive speakers. I can move the subwoofer all over the room depending on its layout. I may try putting the subwoofer in different positions to find the right location and enjoy the better sound quality.
April 26, 20205 yr Read an article, Sealed vs. Ported Subwoofer, it mat helpful, share it here https://curateview.com/sealed-or-ported-subwoofer/
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