Posted December 6, 201311 yr Impaler because its an Impala. Im clever right? first box mocked up: First day the subs came in: Speakers came in: Subs amp:Both my amp's Current box is fiberglassed and use's T nuts to pull the subs in and out. Not designed by me. (g2shuck) Subs are: D4 Alpine type S 15'sRockford P-500.4 amp on 4 gauge Q1-3500.1 (4,300 watts rms at 1 ohm) on two runs of 0 gauge. Wired to 4 ohmsAll power wire, and Rca's by Knuconcepz.Stock alternator.Stock Effing headunit for the moment. Coming soon are: Deck, odds and ends wiring, and more 6.5's Stay tuned. Edited December 6, 201311 yr by Heisenberg
December 6, 201311 yr Were those speakers 6x9s on the left in the pic? You should just sell those and have no 6x9s in place. Also more 6.5s? Are you adding those to the rear?
December 6, 201311 yr Author Were those speakers 6x9s on the left in the pic? You should just sell those and have no 6x9s in place. Also more 6.5s? Are you adding those to the rear?They are 6x9's. The additional 6.5's will go in an enclousure where the center console would go normally, as there is none in these cars. then 6.5's in the front door.6x9's in the rear deck. Please, do explain. Edited December 6, 201311 yr by Heisenberg
December 6, 201311 yr Not sure if adding the 6.5s to the center console is good or not but I do know that if you're having subs it's not a good idea to add 6x9s. The bass from the subs can and sometimes do damage the speakers because they are the most fragile out of things flexing in the trunk. Also the bass from 6x9s won't even be heard because the sub is better for that.Hold on let me find the thread that was going around and proves what I'm saying.http://www.soundsolutionsaudio.com/forum/topic/61266-2-icons-and-6x9s/ here ya go! Edited December 6, 201311 yr by Bassink
December 6, 201311 yr Author Thats good info. So the car needs midbass though and I don't want to make new door panels at the moment. So I thought building a center console would serve me weel. the floor of these cars have oceans of space.
December 6, 201311 yr You have a good 4 channel amp. You should do a good active setup and only use speakers in the doors. 2 6.5s and 2 tweeters. Sell the 6x9s for sure, waste of money for your situation.This is what I'm doing. I'm doing an active setup in my next car.
December 9, 201311 yr Author Pictures I took a few min ago, just for you guys. to show the car im building. Pardon the messWatch what I do with this.
December 9, 201311 yr Looks good man. As big as that box is why not turn it around and seal off the trunk from the cabin.
December 9, 201311 yr Author Box was built inside the car in that orientation , so I cant really play with it much besides pulling it closer or farther away from the rear seats. I will rebuild before spring break nationals but I built that box like 2 months ago and Im not quite ready to saw it in half.
December 9, 201311 yr The console idea is not going to benefit you at all. If you are throwing away your stage and only interested in adding midbass do it in the rear doors or rear. WAY better. And then use DEDICATED midbasses to do it.
December 9, 201311 yr Author The console idea is not going to benefit you at all. If you are throwing away your stage and only interested in adding midbass do it in the rear doors or rear. WAY better. And then use DEDICATED midbasses to do it.Throwing away my stage? Why not drop the 6.5's and 6x9's in their factory spot and have the rear seats down, to avoid the "compression" problem.
December 9, 201311 yr The console idea is not going to benefit you at all. If you are throwing away your stage and only interested in adding midbass do it in the rear doors or rear. WAY better. And then use DEDICATED midbasses to do it.Throwing away my stage? Why not drop the 6.5's and 6x9's in their factory spot and have the rear seats down, to avoid the "compression" problem.Anytime you have more than one driver playing the same frequency you destroy your stage. 6.5 and 6x9 components are far from ideal midbasses and using them as such doesn't make sense.
December 9, 201311 yr Author I was concerned with eliminating the 6x9's and thought it wouldn't leave any midbass behind. But on that mids and highs amp, I feel like there's a chance that the 4 factory spots could keep up. and then in rebuild season, adding a dedicated two channel and two sets of silk dome tweeters up front is a possibility. but that's why i'm on here. learning, and gathering ideas
December 9, 201311 yr As with most things in life, keep it simple is best way to go with audio. The less drivers in a system, the less cancelation and phase issues created.If you feel that you are lacking in midbass, change your midbass driver. In all reality you should only need 1 tweeter and one midbass per side. What speakers are you currently running? Actively or passive crossovers?Also what is your sub crossed over at high and low?
December 9, 201311 yr Author As with most things in life, keep it simple is best way to go with audio. The less drivers in a system, the less cancelation and phase issues created.If you feel that you are lacking in midbass, change your midbass driver. In all reality you should only need 1 tweeter and one midbass per side. What speakers are you currently running? Actively or passive crossovers?Also what is your sub crossed over at high and low?A set of alpine(the new one's)-type S 6.5's and a set of type S-6x9's actively crossed over on an RF punch 500.4 (Wouldn't have bought them if I knew alpine switched to a plastic "basket/frame" rather than metal, used to own the old metal basket one's and they were better) Blown away by the sound quality though, especially for the money. Edited December 9, 201311 yr by Heisenberg
December 9, 201311 yr I think it's time for a better front sound stage. Ditch the coaxial fronts for sseparates, a tweeter and woofer.The only other quick solution would be to bridge the amp on your fronts and run the rear fill off of the head unit for power.
December 9, 201311 yr I was concerned with eliminating the 6x9's and thought it wouldn't leave any midbass behind. But on that mids and highs amp, I feel like there's a chance that the 4 factory spots could keep up. and then in rebuild season, adding a dedicated two channel and two sets of silk dome tweeters up front is a possibility. but that's why i'm on here. learning, and gathering ideas4 factory spots won't keep up better than 2. And they will sound WAY worse trying. It is never a solution to keep throwing drivers at, but instead shop smart.
December 9, 201311 yr Author So some options: #1 optionAlpine CDE-HD148BT$210 http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_66676_Alpine-CDE-HD148BT.html Option #2:Alpine CDE-149BT$250http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_68903_Alpine-CDE-HD149BT.html Option #3:Pioneer DEH-80PRS$280http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_43523_Pioneer-DEH-80PRS.html So im basically between these three.. Looking for suggestions though. Thanks everyone Edited December 9, 201311 yr by Heisenberg
December 9, 201311 yr Author Also, Some ridiculousness just for everyone that's taking the time. DC 10kDC 5k (I think) AQ3500.1 love... Have to love the Saz-5000 AQ 20k Would shoot a baby deer in the mouth in front of 5 children for this amplifier. Edited December 9, 201311 yr by Heisenberg
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