I took some pictures as I took apart the front hubs today and now I am fighting with the inner baring (sp). At this rate they wont make it to the machine shop today.

In the dark you can hardly tell the difference, give them some sun and there is a deffanit difference. They got covvered in greese agian when I was fighting to get the inner bearing out with no luck.

Can't remove the rotors without removing the hubs? That's ghey.

Yeah, tell me about it. You have to completely dissassemble the bearings to get the rotor off. The hub is basically a part of the rotor. Probably why new rotors are so damn expensive.

Looking at the picture I just had an idea.

Yeah, tell me about it. You have to completely dissassemble the bearings to get the rotor off. The hub is basically a part of the rotor. Probably why new rotors are so damn expensive.

THis is nothing abnormal or uncommon. Cheaper and easier to deal with than another piece of material (read HUB). Looks to me like your pad broke. I don't see any rivets on the pads, so that's not where the groove came from.

exact same on my trucks front, they made the rotors too damn thin and the pads too damn small

Normal and annoying coming back to my statement why I don't turn non-warped rotors.

Normal and annoying coming back to my statement why I don't turn non-warped rotors.

No really, I'm done on this cuz I could throw some shit out here.

Normal and annoying coming back to my statement why I don't turn non-warped rotors.

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FYI, there has been, and never will be, a truely warped rotor. If you dont beleive me google what a "warped" rotor actually is.

Bad news, It cant be turned. It can but they wont, liability. The guy at NAPA that quoted me 40 something dollars for a new rotor was an idiot and quoted me for the B2000 with coil springs. I have torsions and mine is $68...for that I can get drilled rotors from Summit. If it comes down to it I will buy drilled rotors for like a nextra $4.

I went ahead and had him turn the good rotor to the same thickness as the bad rotor incase I wanted to reuse them. I've got to talk this over with my dad.

Drilled rotors... just another "performance" part that decreases performance.

untill you reach a brakeing point where the pads start to emit gasses...then drilled rotors are better. Slotted...ehh not so much.

Tomarrow I'm going to call the junk yards...

Show me a modern pad that emits these gases.

They crack, they are expensive, unless you dont do heavy breaking you dont need them.

Gonna get a used one if I can.

used rotors...

thats like buying used undies...you never know how they were treated before you got them

Normal and annoying coming back to my statement why I don't turn non-warped rotors.

FYI, there has been, and never will be, a truely warped rotor. If you dont beleive me google what a "warped" rotor actually is.

Bad news, It cant be turned. It can but they wont, liability. The guy at NAPA that quoted me 40 something dollars for a new rotor was an idiot and quoted me for the B2000 with coil springs. I have torsions and mine is $68...for that I can get drilled rotors from Summit. If it comes down to it I will buy drilled rotors for like a nextra $4.

I went ahead and had him turn the good rotor to the same thickness as the bad rotor incase I wanted to reuse them. I've got to talk this over with my dad.

Wrong. You need to stop talking about chit you know nothing about. When the surface of the pad releases and unevenly attaches itself to the rotor the braking surface is indeed warped, if you are pulling some semantical game and are going to say the metal isn't warped fine but the rotor surely is. I suppose you know are going to go into what causes brake squeak, but before you do please "google" it as well and look at what they use to measure and design rotors in R&D it will keep you from chewing on your shoes again.

As I said. Google it. There are several technical articles written by engineers far more experenced than anyone on this forum. The brake surface becomes un-even, yes, however the entire rotor does not warp.

Keep it civil guys.

The brake surface becomes un-even, yes, however the entire rotor does not warp.

however, the surface is the rotor and thus it's warped.

end of arguement. you just caused your own defeat, in a sense.

this is done guys. otherwise send it in to mythbusters, let them settle it.

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reopened...it stays civil, or it gets closed, again.

debate away...........

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Thank you.

Update. I got a used rotor and I am taking it to get turned this afternoon. I put the driver's side back togather and it works beautifully. I hate packing bareings though. My hands still have greese on them. Even after washing with that orange soap with sand in it. I tried washing my hands with 10m Sodium Hydroxide (lye) but it would start burnning too much before I could reall get in and scrub. But it worked while I could stand it.

Thank you.

Even after washing with that orange soap with sand in it.

I think the sand ur reffering to is Pumice, lol.

Yea i have my transmission out i have oil and crap all over my arms and fingernails and it stays there for a few days, lol, after the third was or so it is usually gone, unless i'm scrubbing myself to bleeding, lol.

Just keep washing wt dawn soap is what i do, the orange stuff only turned my arm white, lol

but glad ur gettin ur ride back together.

Sand, Pumice...same stuff.

I even tried brake cleaner...sisnt really help any. It's like the greese went down into my pores. It doesnt even wipe on stuff anymore...just darker skin...lol.

Packing barings is by far my least favorite thing to do.

Gasoline or carb cleaner FTW, lol its what my dad uses.