akuma4u

look.. i wasjust looking for someone to say "yes im willing to help you out" then i can go from there... but i will go ahead and post my details now.. if anyone can plug them in and tell me if this can be accomplished pls do let me know. My max dimensions are: 13.5 high x 32 wide x 15 deep I need a ported box for a single 12 inch zv3 run off 2000rms (sub displacement is .21) i need the box to be 1.60-1.80 net cubes (aiming for the bigger end of that if possible) NO double baffle due to space limitation total port area MUST be more than 39 sq in .. the more the better due to port velocity issues being too high TUNING should be in mid to high 30s. i have a feeling it may even reach 40-41 hz.. if thats the way it will be then i will live with that. so 1.6-1.8 net tuned to 35-42hz with 39sq inches or more of port area and no 2x baffle. if anyone can design a box hitting all these targets please let me know. much respect

let me elaborate.. i got my max dimensions.. and within those max dimensions i need to hit a certain net cubic foot space AND hit a certain frequency AND have a certain sq inch range in port area... i would need to know first if those 3 things can come together in the max dimensions i have BEFORE i pay... id hate to pay then find out what i want cant be done but heres the next best thing type scenerio thanks for your bizness.. sorry no refunds. im trying to avoid a situation like that.

the problem with pre-paying for a box that i am not sure will be able to be built and fit inside my car with the features i need is problematic because then i have to possibly struggle to get a refund. What i would like is to find someone who i can tell exactly what i need and then they tell me if it can be done or not.. then i pay. If i had all the space in the world then id have no problem pre paying for this service as there would be nothing that would NOT make the enclosure work in my car. im sure there are plenty of guys who know how to build boxes on this site..and who wouldnt mind getting a lil extra cash to their paypal account

anyone with the skills necessary to design a simple ported box and looking for a lil extra cash.. please reply.. need a box design ASAP

Following up...has the icon..xcon or aa havoc come back in stock yet?

i found the review from sonicelectronix stating the damage by underpowering subs.. also the second review, the guy says the same thing..

i really chose the wrong time to buy new subs.

any time estimate on when the havoc will be back in stock?

the first place i read this warning from manager was in the review section on one of the subwoofers they sell. Some guy left a review stating he was only giving it half or 1/3rd the rms and it still sounded good then under that in bold it says managers note: under powering a sub for extended periods of time will warp the voice coil and is not suggested. i tried finding the review so i could post it here but wasnt able to find it .. but i will again and will post it here when i do.

i use to run 2 jl 12w3v3s sealed (due to my space limitations, if i want to run dual 12s i have to do it sealed) and those had an f3 around 44 i believe and if i played anything id say around 40hz or below the bass was noticeably softer. perhaps thats the nature of my car. This is why i am looking for a lower f3 sub so i can avoid this happening again. on a side note,. i have been looking into aero ports and how they save space. I may be able to run dual 12s with aero ports.. i have a home theater sub, a 12 inch polk audio 150rms sub.. that thing is SO good. down firing aeroport. makes my entire room shake and you can feel the low end in your body and ripples and all that good stuff. I wish i could have this effect in my car but even using a 2000rms amp and 650 dollar sub, i was not able to achieve it ... yet.. maybe i will try building a new enclosure with an aero port firing into the cabin up thru the rear deck. The current enclosure i have now was designed by sundowns technical support guy. I really think the design of my car and trunk is holding me back from achieving my bass goals. I remember someone with the same car as me who was also a bass head tell me that since the trunk design sucks and so much bass doesnt freely flow into the cabin as easily as other cars, the only way to achieve this is with a LOT of power and/or many subs.

ive been told that the AA havoc 12s get very loud in sealed boxes and they look very similar to the SSA icon/xcon series subs but have more xmax and can handle 1500rms.. seems like an icon on a mild dose of steroids. Are these in stock at the moment? im trying to find sealed enclosure specs and f3 etc on them.. whats your opinion on them? have you heard them in a sealed set up before?

is it safe to underpower subs by almost half of what they are rated for? staff at sonic electronix said it is dangerous and not recommended because it will warp the voice coil or something like that.. so the xcon is also out of stock?

kinda makes sense.. which driver would you choose? im leaning towards the warmer surrounding bass of the icons i can run 2 xcon 12s sealed as well, i have space for that, but i can only give them 2000rms total. what would get louder and sound better on 2000rms 2 icons or 2 xcons? (on a sealed set up) benefit of the xcons is that i can throw 3500 or 4000 rms later on if i choose to upgrade which should get me much more output. with the icons, i can maybe later get a 2500rms amp but only giving it an extra 500 more rms wouldnt make much of an audible difference than the 2000rms i have now. actually its a bc2000 so i believe its 2250rms but not sure if its a true 2250 or over rated?

the only way i can run 2 is if they are sealed as i dont have enough space to fit a dual 12 ported bo what would you say the difference in sound is between the icon and xcon? other than xcon having more output?

since im still at the learning stage.. can u please explain how the f3 in sealed boxes works. You stated the f3 for a 1 cube box (id be putting it in a larger box maybe 1.3ish cubes) for the icon is 48hz, so realistically once inside the car, how low will the sub play before it loses 3db? will songs that are in the 28-35hz range still play nice and loud? ive heard many great things about the ICON and am debating whether to wait for it or go for the LI,. i guess once i figure out how the f3 for sealed boxes works and how low the icon will actually play then i can make a proper decision.