noonej21

Have an RL-i 10 on the way, should be here within the week. After talking it over with Mike of SS I decided to go with .65 cu ft(using a PPI Pro650 to give the sub 400 watts). I would have gone ported as Mike suggested but even a moderately tuned box would have had a huge port length. I think I will try the sealed at first and then depending on what I think may go ported.

Let me start this off by saying I have searched and read through many posts here and on the Caraudio.com and on theTCSounds forums to try and help me make this decision. Basically what I have is this I am planning to downsize from my current Eclipse 8122(TC7 motor) to a single 10. The sub will live in a sealed enclosure preferably on the smallish size as the reason for my downsize in system is that I have a new addition to the family and trunk space now comes at a premium! I have been looking at the following subs TC-1000, TC-7, RL-i and an Eclipse 8102 NIB off of Ebay. Based on what I have been able to gather the TC-1000 and RL-i are very similar in that they both use the TC2(or is it TC2+) motor likewise the TC-7 and the eclipse are similar in that they both use the TC7 motor(correct me if I am wrong on any of this). I have 400 watts at 2ohms to play with from a PPI Pro-650 and I really listen to it all from rap to rock to alternative to talk(sports talk only). I want to stay within a 1 ft^3 I think for a sealed application. Thanks for any comments/thoughts you might be able to provide on this subject, I understand that subwoofer choice is truly a subjective thing but I am more just trying to get a little background info on these woofers. Thanks again

You won't be disappointed. My RL-i8 pounds (very clean and smooth) with only a SAX-100.2 at 8 ohms in a poorly-designed horn enclosure. I can't wait to rebuild my box this weekend.. waiting on a new T-Box design from HexiBase. Sounds great sealed too. Well sealed is probably the way I am leaning to start off with as my main goal was downsizing to regain some of my limited trunk space. I'll see how that sounds for a while and then switch to ported if needed.

well, I decided to go with the RL-i. Should be here next week, now its time to start building the new box. Mike was great, responded to my questions very promptly. I now can see why everyone raves about SS customer service

I have been fortunate in my purchases on Ebay I have bought multiple subs without any issues. I have this tendancy to fall in love with older equipment(Round solobarics and PPI Powerclass/Art Series amps) and Ebay has been the only place I could find what I was looking for. I think all things considered I will most likely go with the RL-i, I have heard nothing but great things regarding the customer service at SS and having a waranty with a purchase is not a bad thing.

Well that's the thing price wise they are all very similar, I only included the Eclipse in my browsing because it is the 10" version of the 12 that I already have and like a lot! SS has had my attention before and yet I have never went ahead and made a purchase but I have heard about how great their customer service is!

Boy all this talk about the older Eclipse Aluminums (I have an 8122.4) and the round solos(currently have 3 12"'s sitting in my basement, 2 8-ohms and 1 4-ohm) is making me reconsider my decision to potentially go a new direction with maybe an RLi-10. TC-7 10 or TC-1000 10. If only any of my afformentioned subs were able to provide the 2 ohm load that my new amp (PPI Pro-650) requires to provide 400 watts at the sub channel.

can anyone give me a recommendation for a ported enclosure for an Eclipse 8122. I can not find the spec sheet anywhere and Eclipse has been pretty much useless. right now it is in a sealed enclosure (~1.25 ft^3) running off a PPI PC2150(600x1 @4ohms). I am trying to squeeze a little more sound out of this woofer if possible. I listen to a wide range in music, (not sure how that would affect the desired tuning frequency.) thanks for the help

when you mention port area you are in fact referring to just area(in^2 as opposed to volume(in^3) correct? I still need to do a little research on how to determine port size based on a tuning freq. I posted a question similar to this on another message board and was told a specific port area to shoot for. Is the area of the port more important than the overall volume? thanks again

First time poster here with a question about the RL-P. I have entered the market to find a new sub after a nuked my old school round solo(12 inch D series, had it less than a week bought it brand new never used). I was floating around the caraudio.com forums and saw many people talking up the sound splinter product(I created a similar post to this over there today and all repsonse have been very positive) so I checked out the web site and came away impressed, yet looking for more info. Basically I just wanted to get some opinions as to how this speaker compares to my solobaric. I went with the solo because I loved the small sealed box design. I want my system to sound good but don't want to lose all of my trunk space. As for power I have a PPI PC2150, which is rated at 600 x 1 @4 ohms but I have heard that it may put out more than that. I am looking to once again go with a single 12 setup. While searching I have come across the obvious names W6, W7, Type R, L7's and have been able to listen to them all. I liked the JL's but the cost is just too much. I have also done some research into the ID MAX's as well but even they are some what highly priced. Any info you guys can provide would be great. thanks again

I just wanted to thank you guys for all your comments on the sub. Since I started this thread I have actually been able to replace my round solo with another for the time being. I still have plans to purchase something new this summer. From most comments it sounds like ported is the way to go. I admit I have never ran a sub ported so this is new territory for me. Can clean, tight bass still be achieved in a ported setup? I have no intentions to compete, I jsut want to be able to enjoy my stereo system. Consider my amp(PPI PC2150 600x1 @4) would the ported enclosure be a better option. I have always stuck with sealed because as important as a good sounding system has been to me I have always been concerned with retaining as much trunck space as possible(and keeping access to the spare). I guess the easiest way for me to tell what box I like better is to build one of each and drop it in the trunk and see. Thanks again for all the help!

Thanks for all the input guys, this basically mirors what was said over at caraudio.com as well. Considering the 600 watts or so that I will be sending it what size enclosure should I build? I was reading the spec sheet and it mentions sealed enclosures ranging between .75 - 1.5 ft^3. In a perfect world I could add another 3/4 baffle to the box I just made for my solo(~.75 FT^3) to account for the greater mounting depth of the RL-P and I would be done with it. But things typically are not that easy and I do not want to risk blowing this one. Thanks again.