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    You can spend 10K on the "best" equipment, install it wrong and be stomped on by someone who spent 1K.

    Tell us about your enclosure, that will make or break your sub system.

    Well, to be honest, i know very little about how and why a certain enclosure performs the way it does. I mentioned that i would be using a 1.75 cuft ported enclosure tuned to between 32 and 36hz because that is what is recommended for the sub. I would love to learn more about how to read the parameters of a particular subwoofer and make a custom box specifically for it. I have been doing some research, but it is still "sinking in to the brain" if you know what i mean. Since i have a trunk car, i was planning on having the subwoofer and port rear firing toward the back of the car. Does it make a difference which way the port is facing, ie. the side of the trunk or the back? Should i trust that the sub should be placed within a 1.75 cuft ported box just because that is what the website says? I am planning on having a shop build me a custom box for the woofer. I think that might be safer due to my poor wood working skills. It appears that i can have one built for about $125 from a dealer who sells primarily sundown audio gear. I have attempted box building before, i had a 15" AQ SD2.5, and i was not pleased with it even though i built it to the specs suggested by AQ. Most likely an error on my part during the build. What advice can you offer in this area?

    Thank you ahead of time for your input!

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    Hey guys. Now that i have my new sub and amp on the way (SKAR Audio 12" subwoofer and Sundown Audio SAX-1200D), i wanted to post a thread that might ask for clarification on the theory of what everyone refers to as " 10% is the Equipment and 90% is the Installation". What exactly does this mean? I mean, obviously, i would imagine that the box within which you place your subwoofer will make a huge difference. The grade of wiring you use will make a difference. All of the level adjustments made on the amplifier will make a big difference. I just want to ensure that i get the best sound out of my new purchase, and if 90% of what is to be expected is in the installation i want to make sure I do it RIGHT. Just a little background to help anwer the question: 2005 Civic 4 Door, KnuConceptz wiring all around, stock electrical, Polk MM Components up front ran off a 125 x 2 RMS Soundstream Amp passive. The rear stage is stock and faded towards the front. On the way are my SKAR 12" subwoofer and Sundown Audio SAX-1200D. I plan to put this sub into a 1.75 CuFt ported enclosure tuned somehwere between 33hz and 36hz. I am going to run the sub at 2ohms, so about 750 RMS.

    Any and all suggestions are welcome. I am not totally new to car audio, just trying to do this set-up right this time and learn along the way. Thanks guys.

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  4. Posted

    36 hz may be a little high for music.

    Why don't you try 32-33 Hz ?

    :dancing:

    Well that is a good question. I dont really know why i am tuning the box to 36 hz to be honest with everyone. The rep at SKAR audio said that he had the prototype in a ported enclosure tuned to 36hz and it sounded incredible. What kind of differences would i expect tuning the box to a lower hz like 32-33??

    I appreciate your input

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  6. Posted

    Alright guys, well after all of the help i have made a decision on both the amplifier and the subwoofer. I am going with the Sundown SAX-1200D and the SKAR 12" Subwoofer. I am going to run the Sundown amp at 2 ohms, which should give me about 750 RMS to the 12". I think i am going to put it in a 1.75 CuFt ported enclosure tuned to about 36hz. I will keep yall in the loop on the way it sounds and if the sub meets my expectations. I just could not turn down the promo deal they have right now on that Woofer!!! I was able to wrap up a package deal on the amp and the sub.

    Thanks for all the help guys and i will see you around the forum.

    I appreciate everyone welcoming me to the site.

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  7. Posted

    Whatever amp is in your budget and power range then I suggest getting, first choose a sub then we will help you pick out an amp. Audioque is not a bad choice along with others but first things first.

    OK - i am either going with the SA12 or the SKAR 12" subwoofer. Both are rated at 600 rms. Do you think i am making a good choice in selecting one of these drivers and running it at 2 ohm off of a SAX-1200D? That would give me some future head rooom as well to run two woofers at 1 ohm total load to the amp?

    Thanks guys

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  8. Posted

    I would personally get a sundown amp before an AQ. Reason I say this is, I've had several sundown amps and have had zero problems, no issues whats so ever.

    If I was buying a single driver as your are in your case, I'd probably go for the BL since it has a higher power rating and I love my current BL :) . Reason my next build is 4 sa12s and not 4 BLs is money, sa12s are cheaper, and I'm not running enough power to put them to their potential verse the sa12s lower power rating.

    As far as the skar drivers, I know they have a nice presale going on right now, but I don't know anyone whose actually tested them...

    All Preorders have been shipped and these woofer's are now actually in stock!

    if OP can wait a little bit, he can see what people have to say about them :)

    Also to the OP, are you willing to upgrade your front battery? or add a second battery to the rear? Do you know what your alternator specs are?

    I had to gain down my saz1500 when using it on my stock alt, or I'd have bad voltage drop... Just don't want you to spend a lot on something you can't fully take advantage of :)

    I am willing to upgrade my front battery. I am probably not willing to upgrade my alt, just because i dont really know how long i will have this car. I bought the civic mainly because i am traveling between atlanta and birmingham for work right now. I think i am going to go with the SAX-1200D amp. I think i am going to run it it at 2 ohms, so 750 watts RMS. My electrical should be fine with this wouldnt you think? This way, i will have the headroom later if i upgrade my electrical and run the amp at 1 ohm on multiple woofers.

    What do you think?

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  10. Posted

    Its sounds like from reading the replies above that the SAZ amp would be recommended over the SAX series amp from Sundown. If it were your guys system, would you rather have the sundown or the AQ amp?

    Also, it looks like we have narrowed down the field to the Fi BL and the SA-12. To me, looking at the two woofers, it looks you get "more" woofer with the BL. I know that you are paying more, but not a whole lot. For some reason, i am just thinking i would get more output from it. What do yall think??????

    I am kind of stuck on the single 12". i dont really want to spend the money on two woofers, and i am hoping that the single 12" will give me the output i am looking for.

    Keep the opinions coming and thank you.

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  11. Posted

    If you can fit a 3 cube ported enclosure, def. take a look at the SA-15, its still on pre-order i believe.

    same price as the SA-12 and should do nicely in a 3cuft enclosure ported.... That is if you can fit a 15" in your car

    More "bang" for your buck :)

    I will definately take a look at the SA15. I am not sure i want to go the 15" route, but i will keep it in mind. I previously had an AQ SD2.5 15 and i just wasnt pleased. Do you think this is more comparable to the HDC3 15 than the SD2.5 15?

    Thanks for your response and input

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  12. Posted

    Welcome to the forum! :eek5wavey:

    That's a fairly informative first post. I personally would suggest the Fi BL as I do love my Fi Q's and want to share the Fi experience with everyone I can, lol. Seriously though, for the more SPL oriented output you're looking for the SA-12 or BL would probably be the better choice's. The ICON still gets plenty loud but like the other SSA subs is more SQ oriented, but what the hell do I really know I don't have any personal experience with any of the three, lol. My vote is still for the BL on the SAX-1200. Good luck and again, welcome to the forum!

    Thank you for the welcome. You guys seem to have a wealth of knowledge. I am kind of leaning towards the BL, but i have heard great things about the SA-12. Thank you greatly for your input.

    SA12 is the best bang for your buck, at least that's what I see. There cheap, underrated, and everyone seems to love them. I currently have one sitting in my room, still haven't done any testing with it. Another thing that's nice with them is they like smaller enclosure sizes, so if storage is an issue then the sa12 may be the better route.

    Although I have an sa12 I haven't had the chance to listen to it yet, but I've ran ssa icons (latest model) in the past and they sounded awesome. The bass was tight, never muddy, punch in the gut feeling, and that was in a ported enclosure :P

    Currently I'm running a fi bl and the sq between the two is hard to notice, unless you have a trained ear :P Can't compare output though, as I had different enclosures and different size driver(s).

    Also if your on a budget, check out the for sale section, you can always get great deals on slightly used drivers.

    Not sure about your stock alternators amperage, but I think running 1000watts would be okay with a second battery, or just gain down a little bit (and down the road if your upgrade electrical, you can simply readjust your gain).

    Do you think the SA12 can take the 1000 - 1200 RMS daily and be safe? It is rated at 600 RMS right? I know people are pushing them much harder than that though with great results.

    I will definately check out the For Sale section. I have not checked that out yet. Should i feel safe purchasing used drivers from others on this site? Thanks man

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  13. Posted · Edited by funbogie

    Welcome to the forum! :eek5wavey:

    That's a fairly informative first post. I personally would suggest the Fi BL as I do love my Fi Q's and want to share the Fi experience with everyone I can, lol. Seriously though, for the more SPL oriented output you're looking for the SA-12 or BL would probably be the better choice's. The ICON still gets plenty loud but like the other SSA subs is more SQ oriented, but what the hell do I really know I don't have any personal experience with any of the three, lol. My vote is still for the BL on the SAX-1200. Good luck and again, welcome to the forum!

    Thank you for the welcome. You guys seem to have a wealth of knowledge. I am kind of leaning towards the BL, but i have heard great things about the SA-12. Thank you greatly for your input.

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  14. Posted

    First let me start off by saying that i am a huge fan of this forum. I have been snooping around for quite a while before i signed up to be a member. I am a big supporter of companies like Sundown Audio, SSA, IA, because i feel like it is a better product that is the underdog in the mainstream person's eye. I am ready for a new set-up because i down-sized to a 4 door honda civic from a larger SUV. I am looking for a single 12" subwoofer with good SPL that i can use in a daily driver application. I will be running the sub off of either a SAZ-1000d or the new SAX-1200d at either 1 ohm or 2ohms, whichever meets the subwoofer's specifications better. I am very interested in the SA-12, the Fi BL 12, and the SSA Icon 12. I would like to keep the ported box to around 2.5-3.0 Cuft afer all displacements. I am currently running Polk MM Components up front off of a Soundstream 125x2 amp. Just need that bass. I mostly listen to rap, but do enjoy metal every now and then. I am also open to other amplifier suggestions if you think something will better meet the demands of these subwoofers. I am running stock electrical.

    Help me make a decision that will best suit my needs. I want the best "bang" for the buck.

    Thank you and it is great to meet you guys.

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