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My take on the "Super Subs" from mostly first hand experince. RE XXX - Loudest LSQ sub when given the power is needs, Very good SQ. If you can fit a larger box over 3.5 cubes and can give it 2k watts its the best bet. If you have about 1k watts or less I would go with the brahma which will get just as loud and sound a tad better. Under $400 shipped which is a good value. Largest of the bunch also, takes a stong person to lift a 15 lol. Adire Brahma - Best SQ/LSQ of the 3. With 1k watts its just as loud as a XXX. Nice due to the fact it can work very well in a huge range of boxes. Adire also invented the technolgy used in the H2, some other dei crap, XXX and some others(XBL^2) and they are the best at using it. Another thing to note is that you really only need about 400 watts rms on a brahma to get it to do what it needs to sealed or ported. 1k is prob what most people use and there is nothing wrong with that, but there is no good reason to give a brahma 2k watts like a XXX. Most $$$ out of all of them which is a downside at about $440. ED 15a - A very well rounded driver. Nothing amzing about it but everything about it is very good. Great price for what you get at $315. ED has had its problems, and I would not recomend buying a used one. They had issues with back ordering, but the main issue with the A's was that the cones would crack and bend and wrap. The new ones use extra foil to make it thicker but still, its not the bext designed sub out there. Orion H2 - Best sub for burps, prob would handle the most power for 5 sec or so. Not biult amazingly well. DEI who owns Orion stole the XBL^2 technology from adire and they don't really know how to use and make it. This sub would not get my vote for anything but SPL RE SX - I've jsut heard a little bit from an RE dealer over the last few days and it seems very very good. One 12 with 1k watts hit 148 on T/L. Thats a better number then a XXX would do, and he said it sounded fairly damn good also. I think this sub will be going places. He got 29mm one way xmax also. DD 9515 - Loudest sub on this list prob. If you can fit the box this sub rocks. Handdles butt loads of power. Works very well for comps but is also prob the best daily driver SPL sub. This sub does not sound BAD but it does not sound good either, its made for SPL and thats what it does. Don't be fooled by numbers like 14mm one way xmax, this sucker is loud. This is a good sub to find used, they go fairly cheap and often have been re-coned recently which is good. Normal price on these is a bit more then the others do dont buy this one new unless you really want to lol. ID IDMAX - Best SQ of the bunch. Not the loudest at all, but sound very nice. Has kind of a diffrent "flavor" to the sound then some other subs in the SQ class. I would recomend using this sub sealed, but ported works, but tune it to around 27hz. Most people would think they could and should tune lower to maybe about 22hz but your just killing loudness by doing that as this sub does not like to drop that low anyways IMO. Can be found cheap also, about 300 on ebay. If you want high end SQ made well that will get loud enough for most people this is a good bet. Note this does not come in 15" right now but there is some talk about a 15" maybe in the next year or so. JL w7 - overpriced trash IMO. I'm not just some RE or adire fanboy that likes to bash stuff i cant afford. This sub sounds like mush to me. The reason people like JL is cuz they have ad's everywhere and pay people to use there stuff. JL is all makreting. Yes the 13w7 has like 7 pantents or somthing like that but just listen to it next to a XXX or Brahma and you will see what I mean, this sub is not worth $300 when you can get the others for about $400. People might hate me for that but its true. RE MT - SPL sub. Honestly I dont see why people would buy this when they can get the SX for a good $100 less, but the MT is still a good value. I do not have first hand experince with it, but I have seen it. Looks very nice. From what I know, it sounds LOUD, besides just being loud it simply sounds LOUD lol. The SPL guys I know who have tested it say it sound decent, but I'm sure an SQ guy would differ. I expect alot of people in the SPL world to start using this sub and like it. This would compare to the DD prob, but sound maybe a lil bit better. Stryke AV - The cheapest sub on this list by far. They have stoped making them for now but they will start again soon. There under $200 and will play lower then any other sub on this list. I know a person who has one tunned to about 17hz in 3 cubes (its a 15) and damn does it sound nice! VERY good SQ. If your looking at the IDMAX or even the Brahma but dont want to shell out the funds look into this. Other subs I don't know much about but should be on this list Alumapro M-16 Eclipse TiPro PG TiE SI D2 MTX 9500 Crystal CMP X2 (?? I think its called that aleast) hope this helps someone.

So I dont have a whole lot of pics but here are some. I know other people have alot more. It was an ok turn out. Maybe 50 people, not too huge. Dan was on the grill making us adire heads food. Maybe 15 cars went on the TL mic. I hit a 133.5 at 37hz with 220 watts on a brahma 15 with the mic by the headrest and one window down in a temp set up until I get my sub amp. There were some sick installs there but I know other people will have pictures to post of them so I'm not even going to bother getting into them now. I dont know anyone else on this forum who was there, but more talk about the event can be seen at http://forum.soundillusions.net/showthread.php?t=38754 along with more pics, scores etc. what you see in the trash can at adire:

and now for the only pics worth seeing. This might very well be the first pic of a Parthonan working hope its ok to post.

What I bought for $129 with tax. They were clearing out of a bunch of drivers they used for testing and compareing to there own stuff as well as b-stock and prototypes of there stuff. There were Also deals to be had on new stuff. A guy I know got an idmax 12 for $150 new, Maelstroms were $130, Tempests for $90...you get the idea. I got 3 mk1 koda mids, 2 Goldwood tit tweets, 1 HiVi f5 mid, and 2 SCH or somthing like that 5.25 mids.

Some local guy who is an adire dealer owns a TL. I didnt get any pics of us using it lol which might have been nice...but here the box

My friend Sally and I hanging out in the Adire Limo (yes adire has a limo)

pimps and players put subs on there heads.

I have used and still own an Alchemy. The ones that come in badpasses suck pretty much, I have a blown Alusonic in one that is pretty much a POS but Alchemy's when set up right are some of the best sounding subs I have ever heard. I love them. Very musical sounding. Don't port them though, keep them sealed. They are not loud subs at all but they do make up for it in SQ and from time to time you can get them pretty damn cheap. I got a 10" Alchemy for 55 shipped of ebay used and a NIB 12" for 45 shipped of ebay. Great finds!

Another install with pretty much the exact same stuff again in a truck. I think it's the same people also. http://acoustic-visions.com/forums/index.p...t=0entry10982 Vehicle: 2004 Chevy Silverado Extended Cab (1) Pioneer AVH-P7500DVD (2) Planet Audio BB75.2 (Mids) (4) Planet Audio BB1250.1 (Subs) (4) Resonant Engineering XXX 12" Woofers (1) Focal Access 6.5" Component Sets (doors) (1) Focal Access 5.25" Component Sets (kicks) (1) Focal Access 4" Component Sets (rear doors) (1) Stinger 5 Farad Capacitor (Amp Rack) (1) Stinger 230amp Alternator (2) Stinger SPV44 Batteries (Engine Bay) (2) Stinger SPV35 Batteries (Amp Rack) All Stinger wiring and connectors. A lot of it. 144+sq^ft of Roadkill Extreme Q-Logic Kick Panels

The stuff: http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4286811833 http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4287544171 http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4287544135 (I have more but thats all for pic's, other stuff would be a 12w7, another b15, a b12, etc etc) The car: http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4287543989 The man: http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4286863327

yeah i try...but i was just to sexy to take a pic from the front... for those of you who cant figure it out.....use password applefig and user name adireaudio if your to lazy to make you own account...theres like 100+ pics, not just the 5 from the first opening things.....

so I have a 9300 and a 660 as of today, and i went to go plug in the new 660 to make sure everything was good and the plug was diff from the 9300 which pissed me off. It was basicly the same but the 660 one was a tad larger and i didnt feel like hooking up a new harness just to test the new hu. anyone know if the 4 or 5 series are the same as the new 6? thanks! -aaron

send a aim to Goin Def Audio. His name is matt, he is an RE dealer from AL and is on almost everynight. Tell him I (aaron) said you were cool and he will help you with the box info lol. He knows his stuff. I really dont know what the range is for ported HC boxes. If I had to guess like i was saying I think 2.5 cubes each at about 33hz would do what you want but I'm really not sure. You'll hafta get an RE guy to help ya. If you got anymore q's hit me up on aim again. -aaron

Memphis 1500d 1600 rms at 2ohm. super clean power. super efficent. about 550 shipped from indoaudio on ebay. 800 watts to each sub which is enough.

hey. I just sent a quick e-mail to adire about this, but I really think these site would start to take off quick if we could get a few more manufacturers like SI to have there online forum here. What do you all think? I've talked to (the other) Aaron about this a little and he seemed to be down, but I'm not sure the best ways to go about doing it. Anyone have input on this?

maybe im stupid, but is this a joke or do they really have a mini spl car comp? if they do that is pimp. what id he gunna run?

Washington: Help! We're Overrun By Nerds And Slackers! LOL SO TRUE IM A NERD, IM A SLACKER, IM FROM WA hehe

Iowa: We Do Amazing Things With Corn im digin that lol...so random

more then getting manufactures i think we really need to start getting more and more people to join, i dunno how, but we need to.

thats 100% diffrent.

Arc is like an hour and half away from me .... I wish i had the money to buy stuff from them but i dont lol i got some for sale cheap look in the classifieds I know but saving for my 36.1's and another xxx where you from? im from seattle if you were asking me

i supose if you really wanted to get dirty into how all the wireing is layed out in a ps2, you could take the oem power suply out, and since a all that power suply does is make the 120v into 12v, so you could bypass that power suply and run 12v from the car right into the ps2 without using the power suply.....sounds hard, and it is, but ive done it with regular desktop computers and its worked....somewhat...

i just looked at there site and i didnt see anything like that listed. even if they do, all it is, is a power inverter, that is the only way without making a new power suply to get 12v into 120v.

How much did that run you ? 200 watt inverter plenty for a PS2 or XBOX ? I'm also on the hunt for modding AC ---> DC. - Steve i think it was around 35 shipped off ebay. ps2's are rated at 92 watts of draw. i would probably sell it if you really wanted it.

not intrested in either of those, but for the future, where are you located and how much in "general" do things cost to ship to either coast?