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Good luck and dont forget to take some pictures during and after the install

Here is the 2 basic fundamental points I am trying to make, at no point should my government tell me they can run my life, my finances, or my proprtey better than me and then force me to do so. #1 We separated to avoid taxation without representation, and that principal (if not the literal translation) is being stepped on. Our sucess was built on that philosophy, and the republic/senate system was formed to make sure that unpopular laws were not passed. Unfortunately it is now ruled by the republic/house/elite(I hate the word elite but I don't have another on tap), and the people cannot vote for whom they feel can do the best job for them. I don't care if it's better for me and less disease will spread if everyone has some kind of health care, it should be everyones choice to make their own health decisions. I don't need to give reasons of why it's better, or how it will eventually work out, or how it's the law of nature and that's why I'm correct. There are 2 options, free people to let them live free as they see fit, or command power over people. Ensuring that the people who direct pinnacle of legal force of the nation are also the only provider of health regulation is foolish. Ethics, and our constitution dictate that this is the only ethical imparitive of the government at the Federal level. States then can change the semantics and if someone doesn't like the rules of one state they can move or fight to change the rules. This is in fact another welfare reform. It will reward those that don't want to work, fight, or in general better themselves. It removes one more thing that people can strive to work for. The only reason someone in power does that is because they want to remain in power. Eventually the people cannot sustain their own health management and then at that time the Fed will be the only source. Again ensuring power staying with those plucked to continue in power. #2 This is unpopular and Americans support this reform less than the "war on terror". It also has no pragmatic merit based on need. There is no black plague :coughswineflu:, nor any other epidemic sweeping the nation than needs support or aid from a Fed level. At worte the US is full of fat people. No amount of health care, free or not will stop anyone from buying a tripple whopper. Yet this was pushed, forced and manipulated through the law making process. The top executive branch then held the rest of the process at mercy and said it would just be shoved through a different avenue if it wasn't accepted by the house/senate. Either way it would be passed according to Obama and his staff. I'm embarased that the people in office then rolled over like a kicked dog hoping to not get whipped and maybe take some table scraps on the way out.

...and the upswing is that the Dems will spend a whole trillion in half that time whilst tanking the economy? No doubt I agree that most of that "war" was a waste, but Americans were attacked. There were plenty of jobs created in defense buisness. Now we can just go ahead and bleed money on people who have proven that they don't want to work for anything, but they definately want everything. I don't care if it's cheeper, better, or even if it's "better for everyone in the long run". It's unethical to reward bad behavior. Rewarding good behavior however is always the best plan. The basic nature of any law that limits the private persons reach is wrong and should be considered unethical. I don't really care who it helps. Charity should be the choice of the individual. The populace pulling funding to kick the butt of a group of people who attacked them at least has an ethical justification. This bill has < 25% support of the public, "the war on terror" had more support than that.

Man i missed the group buy by a couple days. Aaron just credited me the differance. SSA FTW!!!! this place kicks ass Aaron if you end up reading this, Thank you Sir!!

If you dont have that amp and your still looking for an amp what is your budget? If you get that amp a 150Amp fuse would be fine, 12 or 10 gauge speaker wire will do with that sub. How long of wire will depend on box size and how much to get to amp, I ordered like 4 or 5 ft, just get a estimate and if your unsure then it never hurts to have an extra foot just to be safe then sorry.

it was me... lol. welcome and dont forget to post that question about your box. make sure to have your measurements...

Just like your test for rears, you again completely missed the point. It ISN'T the speakers that make anything an SQ setup, but the installation. Exactly why your front / rear test failed. Look up cancellation, interference on wiki. Read it. Make sure it is in reference to waves. Then ask a logical question regarding the interaction of the fronts and rears WHEN THEY PLAY THE SAME FREQUENCIES. If you truly read it, I doubt you'll even need clarification, but I guess you probably won't believe it either. After all it is just simple Physics. Read the deadener page that was linked earlier as well. Hell read it 3x. Don't ask another deadening question or for clarification until you do. When you do ask, CITE what you don't understand or need more clarification on. You will be surprised at how much more helpful the answers will become when you spend 5 minutes doing some quick research first. That btw is the appropriate way to ask questions on a forum. If you really want to know how I feel, try to join www.corner-carvers.com. READ their terms and conditions. A light bulb should go off on how to actually get help on a forum. That one is by far the best run forum thread wise I have ever been on. Haha. I was waiting for that post to come.

Oh no the world is coming to an end

Get the 15" 3 subs will put a weird impedance on your amp, depending on whether you get 2ohm dvc or 4ohm, but either way you won't be able to run 1ohm,2ohm,4ohm,etc unless you want to run multiple amps, but for that amount of power I doubt you do...

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Making that recommendation doesn't tell him the exact minimum amount of port area needed to avoid port noise. so you are telling me that he will have port noise with 15-17 per and it will be audible???? are you a dumbass, or just a dumbass. my recommendation is not telling him the minimum amount or port area needed without port noise, its giving him a proper starting point for a daily system with lots of output. While it will reduce port noise your recommendation will make mechanical failure more likely. My estimation gives the OP the minimum amount of port area needed to reduce the likelihood of port noise as well as reduce the chances of mechanical failure. You recommending 15-17 proves your stupidity and your lack of understanding of enclosure design. Stop making recommendations as all of them have been proven incorrect. get real dumbass, no one is going to use 29sq inches per for a daily system. what a retard. stop making like you know. and when were my recommendations proven wrong? or are you talking outta your ass.

Hello, Let's start this way by asking you what kind of box are you running now sealed or ported??? For you to be gtell us about your box now and we can go from there....getting a smell from your coil most likely the box is not the right size and your amp may be clipping ... Hawk