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Please contact Josh at http://www.facebook.com/#!/josh.w.hart or http://www.facebook.com/#!/groups/449888281732464/ and PLEASE tell him I sent you! He is truely a great guy to deal with. I was sent to him from Duran. He responds very fast, and is easy to deal with. He has just finished up my design for my 18" SSA Evil and really went above and beyond my expectiations. This is not just any ordinary designer who build an enclosure around your limited space. He actually aims for your goals and utilizes your intended goals into every aspect of the enclosure. When you message him, I would suggest to include any additional information that you may think that could help the design process. For example, I told specifically what frequency range I am really concnerned with or what response I am looking for. I told the characteristics of my vehicle, genre of music I listen to, the amount of power utilized, etc! Here are the results of my enclosure. 8.3 cuft Net tuned to 33hz 128cuin of port Pictures!

Spray my whole car, I will.

Hmmmm, What do we have here.

Nice looking box and you have Lee building it. I am exceited to hear your opinion after all is done and installed.

Nice

can't wait... no wonder I never got an answer from you.... keep an eye out for me for a buyer Sen...

Big ol pewter 99 burban looking like a ATF/DEA truck with soft 8's & 31.5x15 tires. I'm sure our club will be easy to spot with the expected # of vehicles & people.

That came out really great!

If you have 13" depth available like you first mentioned then you wouldn't have to squeeze the 12" PR in, it will fit easily enough. Parts Express has a 12" Dayton Audio PR available for $34 which isn't too shabby, though I'm not sure how good those are as I have absolutely no experience with those. Getting a little pricier Online Car Stereo has this Boston Acoustics 12" PR for $55 and I can imagine it would perform exactly like you need it to and it can be tuned from the front by removing the dust cap which makes it a fair bit handier than most. Fi doesn't post the prices on the website but they can build you a 12" PR for $90 which is much pricier than you're wanting to go I'm sure. Like was mentioned earlier Sundown makes PR's as well and theirs would match your SA10, but again the prices for those aren't readily available anywhere and you'll have to email Sundown for that. Considering you can pick up a 4" Aeroport from PartsExpress for $14 the PR's are definitely more expensive however that brings about a common point that we stress here alot, car audio is all about compromise. The automobile is the most horrible, hard to compensate for, difficult to control environment a person can choose to put audio equipment in and even more so to put that equipment in and expect it to reproduce music faithfully and do it well. Even for something as simple as your sub enclosure you'll have to compromise between being stuck with a sealed enclosure and it's limited response and output, taking a chance on port noise and/or loading issues but most likely getting the response and output you're trying to find, or spend all the extra money on a more expensive PR setup that should yield the response you are wanting without the other issues of trying to stuff the port in the enclosure. We can give you all the information we can to help you make an educated decision but ultimately the decision on which compromises you can live with will be yours.

clean install and very clean looking amps

Call Kinetik's tech support # during the day and talk to Dave. I haven't talked to him in a few months but I've known him for close to 10 years now and he'll talk to you honestly and objectively/empirically, no bullshit or sales pitches.....that's just type of guy he is. He can tell you what people have done wrong to the batteries people have had issues with and how to avoid those same issues. I also know he's done a lot of testing of various batteries though I'm not sure how much of that info he's willing to discuss while on the clock with Kinetik since he's not going to intentionally bash a competitor, but if you ask him some performance related questions he might be willing to share with you some of his findings.

Think I will hide this little rumor in here, I heard chop might be buying something for the cutlass this week.

The Pico fuse is there to keep morons from seriously damaging the hu when they hotswap the rca's. I guess that means you have had Pico fuse issues. Here's your sign.....

What about the links I posted? Where he clearly and blatantly uploaded incorrect, physically impossible, t/s specifications? That isn't good enough to show you his incompetence?

Pioneer electronics sells countless of headunits with pico fuse problems Is that a scam too? They fully well know what the problem is, have they changed it?

I'm sorry but I would never buy a product from someone who claims to be knowledgeable in the subject, yet has to ask whether he should use a ported enclosure or sealed. http://www.car audio classifieds.org/forum/off-topic-chat/47729-subtilis-hbe-gone-2.html You can literally Google search: "Lambo911 car audio," "kevin s car audio scammer," and end up with dozens of results. Yes you can choose to believe that many people across many boards and over the course of multiple years have all decided to make stuff up, but if that's the case then quite frankly I feel sorry for you.

Not defending at all, I'm just trying to understand the purpose of this thread. To warn people of terrible CS from Skar Audio. But the OP hasn't replied/updated us or even stated what he's trying to find out? All i'm seeing here is chit from 2009 that Kevin supposedly did, and in any event there is no way to prove that he made those boxes. I saw pics posted but no one posted a receipt, the boxes are horrible obviously but we don't know who made them for certain. Are you fucking serious man? With all of the evidence against him you are still trying to disprove that he made those enclosures. You either don't comprehend things easily, or have some sort of affiliation with Kevin/Skar. You keep asking what the point of this thread is and we have answered. Just as another example he was selling "b stock" items at full price without telling the customer as recently as 2012. You are right that he hasn't been in too much trouble here in 2013 yet so let me give him another chance to screw me over....wait I'm smarter than that!

so what your saying is.. . the birds fly south only if the red crow eats a pancake at midnight..... is that right?

If the guy wanted to clear his name against these allegations to protect his business he would do so. I understand what you are saying pioneer, but until he steps up to the plate you are defending someone who might end up making you look like a jackass.

thats why im railing it ... fuck it.. ima post stupid shit none stop.. every one else is... mine is just a little off topic

PM me with gum drops and lolly pop coupons please

1.so one should blindly build a box for a sub with no kind of perimeters at all? 2. are you now saying that skars products are inferior ?

" hey this is kevin with skar audio with an un boxing of the new skar audio shirts, know i know alot of you guys have been waiting for this shit to some out and we have been telling you about them on youtube and the forums but here it is, made 100 out of super cool stuff its like no other shirt from any any other company, its skar so you know its great any way this is kevin with scar audio. i like the soud of my own name and the word skar,. lets show you what our shirts can too,. " check us us soon for skar audio tampons and shoe strings and tolit paper coming soon

change of plans.... turns out im not cut out for team skar..... i emailed for an application for teaming and i got this in reply "the team is waiting come on it" no thanks. umm ill stick with what i have.

well you guys changed my mind, im selling all ,my sundown and SSa stuff today TEAM SKAR FUCKERS!

These kind of comparison threads won't do you any good. You're talking about two completely different setups in two completely different cars, there's no real comparison to either unless you're talking numbers on a meter. FYI it makes a HUGE difference on what cars and enclosures they're in. Now, given the quality of the Sundown subs and the fact they'll be in a custom built enclosure that's to specifications (or close enough) on a higher quality amp I'm sure they'll perform very well, get plenty loud and sound very good. Given that your buddies setup is two prefab boxes of different types with a cheaper amp and in the trunk of a car with half the seat down I can imagine he's having response and cancellation issues amongst a multitude of other smaller issues that are giving the lackluster performance. The enclosure determines ~90% of the performance you'll get from a sub. Put one of his Alpines in the proper enclosure and compare it to one of the SA12's and the playing field would be a little more even, but only a little. There's so many variables to consider when comparing stuff like this and if everything isn't apples to apples then the comparison doesn't have any real value. Be confident that your intended setup, by all the information you provided and just doing a quick and dirty estimate, should easily outperform your buddies setup. That by no means is a guarantee, nor is it scientifically based on facts, it's just an opinion.

Got it all sealed up and trimmed out. The truck is just plain brutal to sit in. Had several demos / bailouts today and my brother called me 30 minutes after leaving and said "man Im gonna go lay down I still dont feel right after that shit" LMAO

Current pic. I will seal off and start making it pretty this weekend

It's totally new. Those dust caps are discontinued due to the paint peeling.