Everything posted by BKOLFO4
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40.1 questions
I bought my 4 used and they were all over the place for sale. . . Man I am thinking about buying 4 more. Hope I can find them.
- Buying 15"s
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12" BTL enclosure
2.5 ft @ 32 Hz will work great. I would not go 3 unless you are not running much power. . . I run my 15's in 3 ft @ 35 Hz and they sound awesome. Brian
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Replacement/upgrade for Avalanche
Pair of Havocs?
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2 BTL 12 ENCLOSURE
You can always add angles in the corners for airflow and to take up volume if the box is bigger than needed. I do that on boxes where the depth is close and I do not want to add the 90 in the port. Make the box deep enough for the port and then fill the corners to remove airspace. you could do the same thing with aeros. . . Brian
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Induct heat ring
http://www.soundsolutionsaudio.com/forum/i...?showtopic=7158 I would guess it might be an extra day or two with the extra orders for the new product. . .
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2 BTL 12 ENCLOSURE
You may run into issues with the port if you are planning on one port against one side of the box. A 26.5" port length puts the port 2.75" from the back wall. If you leave it 8" from the back wall, it calculates to be a 30" port length, but in my experience, it seems like when they are that wide it does not always work out exact so you may be ok. If you put the port in the middle and ran it in so it is 4-5" from the back wall, it would work better. . . And better yet, you really do not need that much port area. 6.5" wide is plenty for 5 ft^3, so you could redesign with less port area making the port length shorter. Take width off the overall box to keep the depth for the port.
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Gain question, volts running at 55
Those amps are under rated, but 1500 watts at 2 ohms seems high. With impedance rise, I doubt it is actually producing 1500 watts, but any increase in impedance would also decrease the rated output power of the amp. . . Does you meter read true RMS? What frequency did you use? Were the subs connected while you measured? Brian
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2 X 18" btl's vs. 2 X 12" W7's
Now we are talking the same language. . . .
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2 BTL 12 ENCLOSURE
Why do you have to go larger, length of the port? what are your dimensions?
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2 X 18" btl's vs. 2 X 12" W7's
I do. I hope you understand what I am saying. . . .
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2 X 18" btl's vs. 2 X 12" W7's
I think I said "if they are installed correctly". For a standard designed box in a daily driver application, I do not see a pair of 12W7's on 2000 watts ever being louder than a pair of 18" BTL's on 2000 watts. If they are, the BTL's are not in the correctly designed box. With that much power, the maximum excursion of the drivers is not going to be a big factor (both have more than enough excursion), but the cone area of the BTL's is a big advantage. When I first got them I ran all (4) on a single 40.1 (I only had one), so that was around 1000 watts each. Sounded awesome. Yes, right now I run around 16,000 on them, but I can guarantee you that 75% of the time they are only getting around 800-1000 each and they are more than loud enough and sound awesome. Brian
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2 X 18" btl's vs. 2 X 12" W7's
Man you guys kill me over and over. 2000 watts is the rating of a BTL, but it does not have to have that much to sound good. I am not saying everyone needs a BTL, but over and over people post "don't buy a BTL without having at least 2-3k watts". They sound great with 1000+ watts. I personally love they way they sound for an extreme daily driver. If the BTL's are installed correctly, there is a 99% chance (2) 18" BTL's on 1000 watts each will be louder than (1) 18" BTL on 2000 watts, and they are going to kill the 12W7's in SPL. Brian
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(2) 15" Fi BL's
ZX2500 is a very nice amp. . .great match. Just be sure you get dual 2 ohm coils. Wire each driver's coils in series, then parallel them for a final load of 2 ohms.
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4 Q 12s or 4 Q 15s
You have more than enough room for (4) 15s in that box. If you have a true 1500 RMS per sub, I would add the BP power. If you are good at controlling the volume and keeping the power clean, you should be ok without it. Just remember, no warranty for burnt coils Brian
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Buying 15" BL. Need Help!!!
I tried that a few times, but there was more than once that it gave me the wrong info. . .be sure to manually check it once you have the design. Brian
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Need help with a box design =]
I design mine the "long way", but it always works, and it is just how I like to do it. Determine NET box size required. Determine max dimensions, which will be used to determine the port height and width (using 12-16 sqin per NET ft^3 of box). Calculate port length here: http://www.carstereo.com/help/Articles.cfm?id=31 Add up port displacement (include the port wall), driver displacement, and net required volume. Determine W x H x D required for the calculated gross volume (If not enough room for gross volume - rethink the net volume required and/or smaller port. If it is still too low, consider a smaller/different sub). Make sure the port and sub will fit when determining the true W x H x D. Calculate true net volume with the port actually placed in the box. Make slight adjustments to the box size and port length as required for target design. Finished After you have done a few, it is pretty darn easy. I can put together a standard slot port box for daily driving within a few minutes. Brian
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box help for 4 12" BLs, maybe
What vehicle? What box size? What amp(s)? (4) 12's is more cone area, but with enough power, I think the 15's would have more potential. Brian
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So I got something new to try out. . .
I run 3600+ watts RMS and don't have any problems with heat until I start clipping pretty hard. I can play mine for a long time (longer than I want to listen ) without any problems. Dust caps will barely be warm. Brian
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So I got something new to try out. . .
Mine do not. Scott just told me quickly it is an aluminum ring for further heat inductance. I did not get enough info from him to try to explain how it is setup and works. . .
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can a 18'' btl work in 6 cubes gross?
Does not look like the baffle will fit (3) 15's. . .
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Box and amp recommendations for a 15" BTL
No sealed for BTL. Single magnet on the BTL > triple stack Might want an extra battery in there too.
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Need help with a box design =]
Since the subs are mounted in the top, the double baffle just makes it stiffer so it will not vibrate with the sub. Do as Jim said and use titebond instead of liquid nails. You can go back after the box is built and use Liquid nails on the inside to seal it up and add strength. I nail my boxes together with an 18 ga nail gun. If the box is for high SPL, I go back and predrill holes and wood screw every 6-8". For most boxes, the wood will hold everything together. The only time I have run into a problem is when there is enough pressure in the box that it actually splits the MDF (the glue joints stays). edit - you will not need polyfill if the box has enough airspace. Brian
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So I got something new to try out. . .
Man these things are SICK. Been running around for 2 hours now trying to break them in a little. . . Petey Pablo - Vibrate. Hard to keep your feet on the floor, too much vibration. My favorite bass race song on Crunk Juice CD is nuts. Hard to breathe while it is on. Got a little carried away one time with that song and could smell the coils a little. Once again, sick subs. Can't wait to get a little more break in on them and then meter. Brian
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Calculating Slot Port length
Calculate that box without slot port checked, and you will see it uses 1/2 whatever you put in for width. That is the calculator I use. What I have found building boxes and actually measuring the tuning frequency is that once you get over 4-5" in width, the slot effect changes in real life. A port is tuned based on resistance. The slot effect is nothing more than the resistance changing due to the added friction of the wall extending beyond the actual port. When the port gets wide enough, that addition resistance had less effect due to so much port area away from the wall. If I build a box with a port more than 6" wide, I calculate standard port length and then subtract 3". Works pretty good so far. . . Brian