ok wish I would of seen this a bit sooner but here is my take on this! those who OWN ZCONS raise your hand! The zcon is by far the biggest output driver I have experienced while still keeping its CLARITY! I have 2 18" Zcons and did a 156.7 at 27hz in a street box of 6k! Edub to slam on LANCE about a DB score is not even what this is about! your opinion is your opinion but how can you have one with a sub you have no experience with? the sub doesnt have an official release date so why would they be concerned on releasing T/S? Also before you get into what subs have you heard and compared to blah blah blah! I have been to multiple comps and heard vehicles that do 60+ and 55+ on music! Some were able to keep there clarity but not many! The ZCON is going to be EPIC when it is released and if my van wasnt so damn loud and the cops knew my van then I would have up more vids! IMO wait for the ZCON if you can afford it and afford the power it wants because these are BEASTS of SUBS! MARK AND AARON both trusted in me as a person to ABUSE and USE this sub and I did just that! I set my personal best with a 56 below 30hz As well as did a NOOB mistake and hooked up one coil and gave it about 6k for a week straight and this sub took the ABUSE! MARK AND AARON: you guys have taken very good care of me and because of it you have a driving, walking, talking BILLBOARD and ADVERTISEMENT! you also have a dedicated LOYAL customer FOR LIFE! SSA FTW FTR SSA IS KING SHIZZZZZZZZZZ