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It wasn't bench tested for power numbers, it was tested for other reasons that are not disclosed at this time. This unit was randomly selected and sent out so there is nothing special or wrong with it

This SAZ-1500D was shipped out for testing purposes and then shipped back to Sundown Audio afterwards. It looks pretty much brand new, although it is used so it has some finger prints and whatnot on it. This amp will be covered by full warranty from the date of purcase. $425 shipped in the continental 48 states via paypal

No. Not for a daily application, and it would not be under warranty under any circumstance as that is 0.25 ohms per amplifier. Why not strap them at 2 ohms? Nearly any coil configuration that can yield 0.5 ohms can also yield 2 ohms. As for the second question. Yes, that electrical system would be fine for a pair of SAZ-1500D amplifiers at a normal load.

I am working on a 6-channel but I will have crossovers installed. A non-crossover amplifier likely won't happen all that soon as the overall market appeal isn't sufficient for me to produce that sort of thing *yet* ... but, expect alot of cool stuff once I get the ball rolling and can make some niche items

For sale is a cosmetically damaged Sundown SAZ-1500D. This amplifier is fully functional except for the remote input. You will NOT be able to use the remote as the port was broken off in transit from the factory, along with cosmetic damage to the end panel as pictured: Price is $350 shipped in the continental USA via Paypal.

Hey guys, Looks like we lost alot of database information in the upgrade process. I was able to re-post both Sean and Loyd's test results. If anyone else has anything to re-post I would appeciate it greatly. Eg: SAE-100D photos and whatnot The new forum has lots of cool new features and we are back up and running now!

Here's the setup, a pair of Sundown Audio SAZ-1500d's strapped at 1 ohm. In the box used in the test (a single Funkin Audio MF12, dual 2), rise went from 1 ohm to 2 ohms during play. Here are the results: Notes: * Highest power on 16.0v rest was 4663 watts on 14.3v * Highest power on 16.5v rest was 5136 watts on 14.3v * Highest power on 17.9v rest was 5677 watts on 15.5v * 84% efficient on 15.0v and 180 amps of draw per amp There was a 10% increase in power starting 0.5v higher with an ending voltage being the same. There was another 10% increase when starting at 1.4v higher and ending 1.2v higher. This would tell me that a lowest voltage over 16.5v likely wouldn't be much of a gain from below that. No matter how ya look at it, tapping the 5700 mark on 15v isn't too shabby from a pair of 1500 watt amps.

REGULAR VOLTAGE TESTING: Testing by Loyd Lowry. results from the sundowns... Test Vehicle.. mine.. 05 aveo.. RMS clamp and dmm, as seen in the 12" test session.. This testing includes recent results, and not so recent.. woofers used.. 2 Mags (1.9 dcr per coil), 2 FI Q 12's (1.4 dcr per coil) either used 1 sub or both of the pair for loads.. pure 60hz sine was used to tested.. just under audible clipping 1 amp, single 1000ca everstart maxx, factory alt 4 ohm nominal = 518 watts @ 88% efficiency (voltage fell from 14.3v, to 14.0v) 2 ohm nominal = 948 watts @ 85% efficiency (voltage fell from 14.3v, to 13.6v) 1 ohm nominal = 1510 watts @ 78% efficiency (voltage fell from 14.3v, to 12.4 volts .5 ohm nominal = 1615 watts @ 72% efficiency (voltage fell from 14.3v, to 11.8v) .35 ohm nominal = 1748 watts @ 67% efficiency (voltage fell from 14.3v, to 11.4v) amplifier was protection happy @ .35 with tones, and some music. IMO.. one 1500d should be limited to 1 ohm nominal use in factory electrical systems.. for the sake of the car.. not the amp now... to have fun with some juice.. 1 amp, single 1000ca everstart maxx, 1 Eagle Picher 12a5000, factory alt 4 ohm nominal = 520 watts @ 88% efficiency (voltage fell from 14.3v, to 14.1v) 2 ohm nominal = 960 watts @ 84% efficiency (voltage fell from 14.3v, to 13.7v) 1 ohm nominal = 1635 watts @ 75% efficiency (voltage fell from 14.3v, to 12.8 volts .5 ohm nominal = 1890 watts @ 71% efficiency (voltage fell from 14.3v, to 12.8v) .35 ohm nominal = 2245 watts @ 65% efficiency (voltage fell from 14.3v, to 12.8v) amplifier did fine @ .35 with tones and music with the added battery 2 amps strapped, with both batteries (for the sake of not typing it over and over... voltage drops from 14.3v, to 12.8 the entire test... lol 4 ohm strapped = 1900 watts @ 82% efficiency 2 ohm strapped = 3150 watts @ 72% efficiency 1 ohm strapped = 3740 watts @ 68% efficiency .5 ohm strapped = 4425 watts @ 65% efficiency .35 ohm strapped = 5415 watts @ 62% efficiency amps would only tolerate a VERY short burp @ .35.. -------------------------------- HIGH VOLTAGE TESTING: Testing by Sean Belanger Here's the setup, a pair of Sundown Audio SAZ-1500d's strapped at 1 ohm. In the box used in the test (a single Funkin Audio MF12, dual 2), rise went from 1 ohm to 2 ohms during play. Here are the results: Notes: * Highest power on 16.0v rest was 4663 watts on 14.3v * Highest power on 16.5v rest was 5136 watts on 14.3v * Highest power on 17.9v rest was 5677 watts on 15.5v * 84% efficient on 15.0v and 180 amps of draw per amp There was a 10% increase in power starting 0.5v higher with an ending voltage being the same. There was another 10% increase when starting at 1.4v higher and ending 1.2v higher. This would tell me that a lowest voltage over 16.5v likely wouldn't be much of a gain from below that. No matter how ya look at it, tapping the 5700 mark on 15v isn't too shabby from a pair of 1500 watt amps. --------------- Regular and High Voltage Posts Consolidated on 10-23-08 Original "High Voltage Thread" Here: http://www.soundsolutionsaudio.com/forum/i...?showtopic=7117

There is... Audio Junkies is in Tampa I'm not sure if he has facilities for retail sales and demo, though... but you could e-mail Lukas and find out

Thanks Neil You can also see some excellent pictures on the Audio Junkies web-site (one of my dealers linked on the site), he took pictures of his own that are exceptionally well done.

Their P1500.1 is rated 1250 @ 12 volts... it doesn't DO that, at least not anywhere remotely near rated THD. Just a small correction. I will also disagree on clean -- triple rated THD for less than rated power isn't clean by my definition. Not that it sounds terrible, because it doesn't, but I wouldn't go so far as to call it clean either. Comparing the P1500.1 to the SAZ-1500D is a misnomer. They aren't in the same class at all and cannot be compared. Of course the P1500.1 costs less to the consumer, as it costs less than half as much to build! I have the price sheets from the factory Massive uses, so I know this for certain. For that matter... the P3000.1 costs less to build than the SAZ-1500D does. Does that tell you anything about the comparative quality? As for the comparison to the Atomic, I can't comment as I don't know anything about the amp. Is your price authorized with warranty?

It is being worked on as quickly as possible. I would expect no longer than 6 months at worst, and 3 months at the very best. Of course, I will keep the forum and/or web-site up to date with all the latest

http://www.audiojunkies.com/Categories/Brands/Sundown/ Audio Junkies is now carrying Sundown Audio gear, it is in stock and ready to ship. They are currently matching the intro sale price, so you can order direct or from them at the intro price until the 28th. Low-Hz will be stocking Sundown Audio amps soon as well. I'll post a notice up when they are in stock.

I'm sure Nick could work it out for you, it may cost a good bit to have a Mag shipped all the way to Switzerland though

I erased my for sale thread as there was no real interest, but the results are as follows on the "P1500.1 equivalent" test: Tested by K&B Audio. 12.5V 4 Ohm: 388W @ 3% THD, 38A 14.4V 4 Ohm 520W @ 3% THD, 43A 12.5V 2 Ohm: 732W @ 3% THD, 64A 14.4V 2 Ohm 810W @ 3% THD, 75A At 3 times the rated THD it does not meet rated power. It did not pass a 1 ohm resistive test, and in fact, blew out a rectifier diode during the test. I replaced all the rectifier diodes in that amp since I have it up for sale and I wanted to make sure none of the other diodes had problems. It's really not a bad amp overall... since I was able to run a 1 ohm nominal load on it in my car on a Mag 12. It is simply overrated and not overbuilt enough for my tastes -- IMHO, any amp rated to handle 1 ohm should handle that resistively. As for my product, the SAZ-1500D, I am having an intro sale until the 28th at $450 shipped to the continental 48 on my forum here on SS Audio. Go there for more information as this is the SI forum so I don't want to post all about my equipment here. After the sale, Low-Hz will be one of the few net' dealers to pick them up from.

http://www.caraudio.com/forum/showthread.php?t=178329 Next to Brandon's this is the first customer install of Sundown Audio amplifiers. And since Brandon has yet to provide me with pics Hollis is the first to have pics up on the net Crazy install... Hollis has his SAZ-1500Ds wired to 0.5 ohms and they are holding their own.

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Excellent, looks good

That is correct. He was sending 3000+ watts RMS to his Mag.

If you want to use the P1000.1 amplifier I have two amps identical internally to the P1500.1 for sale, check the for sale section. Only $270 shipped for the pair of them. I will tell you this, while it is not a bad amplifier that line has questionable stability at 1 ohm under stress. They won't complete a 1 ohm resistive power test, as per test done by K&B Audio on my identically built models - the protection circuit kicks on. I DID use one on a 12" SI Mag at 1 ohm with no issues, but I am not one to really abuse a sub/amp combo so this does not mean YOU won't run into problems. The P1000.1 will also be far from capable of pushing your Mag 15s to their potential, as the P1500.1 is more realistically a 1000 watt RMS amp at a reasonable THD level... thus the P1000.1 is probably more likely 750 watts RMS or so with reasonable THD. As for my SAZ-1500D... it was tested by Nick Morgan at 13.8 volts in-car to produce 1550 watts on a 1.9 ohm reactive load -- real world power. It is underrated and overbuilt. You will get what you pay for and more. Cutting corners now is asking to change your setup later when you decide you aren't happy with it.

Everything still available at the aforementioned discounted rate in post #8. The items will be hitting e-bay in a week or so, so if you want any of these amps contact me soon.

Stereo Integrity speakers are very reliable, the latest Mag series has had VERY few defects or failures in the field. As for an amp to run them. Neither the IA 20.1 or the SAZ-1500D is specified to run at a 0.5 ohm load, or to put out maximum power at 2 ohms -- which are the two loads you can achieve with a pair of 15s. Both amps will survive 0.5 ohms, but again, you lose warranty coverage running out of spec. An SAZ-1500D per 15" Mag would be a great combination. I run an SAZ-1500D on a single Mag 12 and find it very satisfying, the combination works very well together. If you are interested in a pair of SAZ-1500Ds I can work out a special offer for you until the 28th of August when the intro sale ends. If you buy two SAZ-1500Ds along with a pair of 15" Mags; Stereo Integrity and Sundown Audio will offer you a package price for the combination. PM or e-mail me if you are interested in more details.

SI has the speakers but they have not arrived at dealers yet. Should be ready within a week, I would expect.

The forum won't seem to let me post Dave's review. Dave, If you would like to post the review please do so. The forum keeps giving me an error for some reason.

*laughs* Okay, blame it on me! --- Showrides, Did you get my e-mail about inventory being ready to ship? Occasionally I will have a problem with an e-mail I sent not making it to it's destination.