ford302redneck

I haven't seen anybody post any pictures. But I'm sure people have bought them.

Or email me at [email protected] with the pictures.

Send me a PM and I'll give you my number, and I'll post the pics.

I'm ready to hear your thoughts on the SD. As of the myth they don't have great lowend without help. So whenever you get enough time I'd like to hear your opinion. And I'm sure other people will like to hear too.

Ohhhhh. I see now. Damn I feel like a idiot. I thought you had come up with some new style of windings.

Pictures? But yes most of what you stated is normal. Minus the shavings. But having such a high strength magnet, it can be very hard to keep any metal from it.

Troy, what are the windings for sticking out the back? Maybe I missed why you said it.

Well I wouldn't say that much, I may be getting this wrong, but from what others have posted so far, crappy parts can get you rated wattage as well. But its the longevity, quality, etc that makes the difference. Well I wouldn't say crappy parts, but not over built parts. Most amps do fine within rated RMS, that's what the parts are built around. People run into problem trying to get more out there amp than designed. Example, low impedance, higher voltage, and ect.

Thanks Aaron for the explanation. I had figured SSA had gave thought to the idea, and what you said does make sense. Seems sad what happened to the company, from what I seen the product is very solid.

lol really? lol really. And xcons aren't the only thing I'd look for, just not dc subs. lol i suggested IA before anything... what a tool. I never said anything about incriminator, just simply stating that I personally wouldn't go with dc for the above posted reasons. Yeah I guess I'm a tool? sorry shouldnt have called you a tool. Have you ever held a DC or looked at one in person? I have had both 2008 RE SE 10s SX 10 and 12s, and Just got these level 4 DCs. MUUUUUCH different. yeah maybe the basket is the same, that means nothing. I have looked at DC in person. And we are talking about old RE before US Amps bought them. If you've ever had a DC you would notice the horrible machine groves and rings inside the vent pole. I know they aren't seen but damn. They are some of the worst I've ever seen.

I'm not sure if these are in the direction I want to go yet. I guess I need to make up my mind soon before they are all gone. Hey Aaron, you haven't thought about being a distributor for Bravox? Or are they wanting a big distributor?

Why don't you go cry about it then? Talking about going off topic and crying to somebody that cares Talk about whining. Once you posted this thread, you don't have much control in who replies and what said. This isn't just your thread anymore once you made it public(to this forum). And I'm apart of this forum if you like it or not. And I got the right to read and reply to any open thread. Only people who can tell me not to reply is, Mods and Admins. Seeing your neither, I can't say I'm going to listen. But I'm sure you'll go whine to somebody I won't leave your thread alone, but I probably would have if you just kept your mouth shut.

See you don't understand. Take Audioque, they have pretty cheap prices compared to other name brands. And do you know why? There direct, no middle man selling the product to make a living. Most companies don't jack up prices just because they are greedy. I did say most. Key word. You can't expect a company to make a minimal profit off a amp they have to warranty. If one comes back and they have to replace it, they will lose money. And how do you expect a company to make money if they lose money warranty a product. I hate when people complain about pricing. This isn't a hobby to many companies. And you can't expect them to give out product. They have to make a living too. And they make sure to cover there ass when something happens to the product. You can't compare online prices to dealer base prices. Wasn't necessarily complaining about pricing but merely mentioning that sometimes the "phantom effect" keeps some companies looking good compared to others sometimes. Obviously none of these companies do this for pure enjoyment, its a business for a reason. If I can get a better price for a certain product I won't always take it because it might not be worth the price difference when you know you might get better service, authorized warranty and all that other good stuff that comes along with it... Point is, my main take on it is quality and needs... I won't be looking at a 3k amplifier and expect it to be priced at the same price as a 500 watt amplifier just because of a name... There is more to it and sometimes nothing qualifying some price differences.. That is all... As vague as it sounds.. I did go a tad overboard with my reply. Just so many people complain about pricing on a dealer based company when internet company is so much cheaper. I just wanted to make that point. Didn't really mean you was the only complaining, but its plenty common.

The person I quoted in my reply just did say something about pricing. So where did you did nobody said anything about it. Everything I posted in this thread has been on topic. So where do you come off saying I'm not posting on topic? As far as that other thread, I wouldn't of said anything but Steve took a little jab that SSA was up tight and to serious. Yet over here, this forum is about giving out proper information instead of watered down info. If you don't want anybody else but the people who can give you answers to reply, you should PM them. Don't waste forum space if you don't want other people to comment and ask questions.

Is it possible for different amplifier classes or different components to cause a difference in sound? Sure, it's possible......IF the power, gain, frequency response, noise or distortion are audibly affected. Realistically speaking, amplifier classes are evolved to the point that prior deficiencies have been solved so there's not going to be an audible difference in the FR, noise or distortion in an amplifier of decent design. So in the end, it's going to come down to power and system settings. Different components......all you really need in amplifier (aside from reliability and longevity) is a flat FR and inaudible noise and distortion. If those qualifications are met with two different sets of various components, and power output is unchanged, what is going to make the amplifiers sound different? Certainly you could change components and have an FR that's no longer flat, audible but pleasing distortion, etc. But it has to impact one of those factors to be audible. Some people claim that X capacitors "widen the stage" and create a "warm, smooth midrange". Really? What changed to cause this? If it wasn't power, gain, frequency response, noise or distortion.....then nothing. You a good point. I've always heard different things by different people. SQ people seems to be the worst when it comes to differences in sound. I've once heard adding a cap was only good to be used for SQ, because of some outrageous reason. I loled at that.

See you don't understand. Take Audioque, they have pretty cheap prices compared to other name brands. And do you know why? There direct, no middle man selling the product to make a living. Most companies don't jack up prices just because they are greedy. I did say most. Key word. You can't expect a company to make a minimal profit off a amp they have to warranty. If one comes back and they have to replace it, they will lose money. And how do you expect a company to make money if they lose money warranty a product. I hate when people complain about pricing. This isn't a hobby to many companies. And you can't expect them to give out product. They have to make a living too. And they make sure to cover there ass when something happens to the product. You can't compare online prices to dealer base prices.

Not many companies offer the same thing as another company. If you talking about 3000 watts vs 3000watts, that's different, than the exact same product. Take Sundown vs Audiopipe. Sundown's 1500d is 500dollars at MAP iirc. The Audiopipe is 200 dollars. One the Sundown is a dealer only based company, so therefore you have Jake selling to the dealers, then the dealer has to make a profit. Vs the Audiopipe, the actually person your buying it from doesn't make hardly anything off the amp. And they can do that because they don't have near the costs that a actually retail shop does. Two, the Sundown comes with a 2 year warranty, and is transferable if/when you sell it. You would get lucky to get a warranty a few months down the road with the Audiopipe. You get the point. There are more reasons but no need to go into great detail. Also, I just named brands and pricing, those could vary, just had to state something for a example.

But wouldn't different type of classes/components amplify differently causing a difference in sound? I'm not doubting anything. And I'm not saying it does. I'm just simply asking because other people could have a similar question.

One reason one amp could of louder than other if both have same rating is because there is no real standard for rating. Also, some companies underrate and some overrate. When you pay for a amp, you usually buying other various reasons. If its quality, size, costumer service or anything else you can think of. That's all I'm going to say on this subject. If all watts was created equal, there wouldn't be a need for different classes and or different type of components that are used. I'll let somebody else explain, as I don't want to give out misleading info because I don't exactly have the correct answer.

carzy distortion I say that's a myth. That's like saying only a 18inch can reproduce low bass but is also not fast enough for double kick bass. Its hard to compare a metal dome vs a silk because of the variables. Even a simple swap out, doesn't determine either way. Or hearing a metal dome in your friends car and you have a silk, its two totally different installs. Way to many variables to even think of comparing.

DC drops softparts in American. On level 3 and above anyway. If you want DC, go to SMD, they worship that shit. For reasons I have no idea.

I didn't read the whole thread, but bad mouthing SSA(Mark or Aaron) is a no no. That's just not going to fly. Period. First of all, the OP shouldn't of started a thread without giving Kevin the chance to make things right.(I don't think it was his fault). But regardless shit happens, and it is on the seller to take the shit end just because the seller doesn't know how to properly handle a situation like this. Like I said I didn't read the whole thing, but just what I read that's the comment I'll give. Don't bring SSA name into this. That's not called for.

I was thinking the same thing, Clipping is a form of distortion, but it doesn't have to be clipped to be distorted. But I'm not a 100%. And I'm not claiming to be. I wasn't going to post anything until somebody said that same thing.

Uh oh. I figured once Ant left for good, it just wouldn't be the same. Hopefully they can get everything worked out.

2011 Ford Explorer. Jesus those things are sexy. I like the Mustang idea, make sure its at least a GT. But they are already plenty of them in the audio industry as show cars. Ford Fiesta would be cool. Tastefully done of course. Or even a F250 or F350. Always nice to have a proper work truck for any business. Yeah, I know I'm bias to Ford.