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I'm not sure if "the727kid" is active on this board, but I beleive he did this, you might try and PM him. I do know he is active on the Challenger Talk forum, and his system looks amazing. Good luck on your quest.

I've been fooling around with the idea of a round port to save space on my first box build, but after plugging in numbers and doing the reasearch on some of the websites posted by some of the guys here, I now understand why most people say "Just build a slot port and be done with it." I haven't ruled it out completely because firing an 8" port through the rear deck sounds awesome, it might be out of my league though.

Well now I've got something else to add to my bucket list, congrats on the great time.

You need to do "the big 3", which consists of replacing the power and ground wires to and from your battery. There are many technical tips on this from many, many posts. Just use the search function. Good luck!

Soundstream used to be one of the best in the business, but like many older companies, they are just a shadow of their former selves.

RE isn't what it used to be, I'd go with one of the other brands.

...ummm... that sounded great...on...my....crappy....computer......speakers. Did I miss the Image Dynamics 12"?

Thanks for the great review, I gotta admit I'm a sucker for a great sealed driver.

Happy Birthday!

The only help I can offer is you will want 45s to prevent possible port noise.

I was looking through Craig's List and saw someone in Dade City, FL had two Funky Pup 12"s for $80. I was tempted....soooo tempted.

Welcome, you will find some of the most knowledgable car audio people on the planet.

I'm sure I'm just overthinking, and if I have to wait another 2 or 3 weeks to order a DCONs, I will just overthink some more.

I'm getting close to ordering the 15" DCON and will be building my first enclose with my buddies tools and expertise, but I've been reading and researching just enough to be dangerous. I've been on carstereo.com, bcae1.com, diyma.com, and a few others. While the smaller drivers t/s parameters do lean in favor of ported enclosures (along with much antecdotal evidence) the 15" appears to be more suited to the sealed enclosure. Example, the Fs of the 15" is 33.5hz and the 10" is 29.4hz. I haven't researched every subwoofer line, but this seems to buck the trend, big time, unless it's an error on the website. My biggest fear in constructing the box is that I won't have anyway to adjust the tuning if I'm not happy with it. I was going to use the optimal enclose recommendations supplied by SSA, but the tuning might be below the Fs (which I read is bad). If I used round ports I could just add or subtract length to tune, but then I'm on my own as far as dimensions and designs, which pushes me in the sealed box direction. I know t/s parameters aren't for newbies and there is a lot more to a speaker than numbers, but we are talking physics and mechanical drivers here. Any insights from the masters? If it matters.... ride = 2011 Dodge Challenger coupe amp = 400 watts rms from Boston GTA 1005 goals = good sound quality and way more output than a single JL 12W0 in 1.4 ft3 sealed enclosure on 250 watts

I am so sorry I came late to this post, but... What are your: goals, budget, and teeth?

I would definitely recommend NOT using the JBL p660c. I have them paired with 80 watts rms from a Boston amp and they love more power, not less.

I turned 40 last year and love my music load and clear. If I want to keep the wife and kids happy, I just play the stuff they like.

If you want any of the knowledgable people on this forum to respond, you will need to tell them what vehicle, power, type of sub(s), etc., etc. etc.

I am in agreement with Alton, skip rear speakers and get a better front stage. I bought a 5 channel amp to run the whole system, but now I wished I would have just spent the extra money on a better front stage, as I found music coming from the rear unnatural.

I have to 2 E series 8"s sitting on the rear deck with 6,000 watts RMS and it so hard my girlfriend went into labor!

If your main concern is RCAs and system expansion, Audio Control makes it so easy. I just installed an EQL and my factory head unit sounds great. I honestly hated it before Audio Control, but didn't want to lose satellite radio, dash display, and steering wheel control.

Thank's for the input, it's really tough to read up on this stuff. 9 out of 10 search results are total crap or conflict with each other, I'm glad I found this sight.

If the human ear is unable to detect the direction ot true mid bass (below 250 hz), why not run a single 8" woofer in the rear deck of my challenger to compliment the 6 1/2' component set up front and 12" sub in the trunk? I bought a 5 channel Boston GTA amp super cheap and could car less about rear fill, but would like better mid bass response. Please tell me why I'm crazy. p.s.There is no way in hell my wife would ever let me chop up the doors to put a pair of 8"s there, and I am not running active.

Thanks for all the input. I bought an Audio Control LC2i and had a local shop spend about 3 hours fixing mistakes other people made and it sounds way better. I plan to keep the JL12W0 in the 1.4 cubic foot sealed box for family trips when trunk space is at a premium, and order a DCON 15 over the summer.

I wasn't sure about JBL components at first, but I promise you they will handle power and get loud. I heard a set of Alpine type r's in an audio instal guy's car and mine sounded just as good. I might prefer a softer, silk tweeter, but if you want volume, check out JBL.