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That is six flags kentucky kingdom. No disrespect to the place or the state especially since I live there but that is where that incident with that girl happened where part of her foot got cut. That was the reason for all of those types of rides to get sut down for investigation. The place is a great place for kids but if u like to travel, I favor Cedar Point as the grand tourist/amusement park out there!

Well that's better. I couldnt fold my back seats down and have a box lay down over it for daily. At least that was just for comps. I didn't want my car to look tacky with a daily setup like that so glad to hear that you have an alternative setup that doesn't require that. I've been doing drawings in CAD now since the VERY beginning of this year... yea that long. Gotta make sure i can find the most space and see what i can do to it's fullest... with the spare tire!!

I know why coils burn, But in the unlikely event anyway, they can still be reconed for a price so i'm not worried. Ps - when i was new to car audio several yrs ago, i set a sub on fire, haha, never thought it was possible. I know now and still there are a lot of people i tell that to and they don't believe that it's possible.

johnecon2001, i'm not so sure.. I seen this episode of cops one time where a cop asked if he can search this guys truck. He said no. The cop politely said, sir, because you have said no, this gives me probable cause that you are hiding something so he handcuffed him and made him sit down while searching his truck. I got pulled over a long time ago, bout 9 yrs ago for doin 56 in a 35. He asked if he can search the car, i said why? He said because if u don't i'm given you a ticket, hehe, i said go ahead. Of course he didnt find anything so he just let me go.

Ok, i just got done doin some more research over at DbDrag's site about the BTL's and readin some advice competitors were giving to people running it daily. The box i'll have is 3.8 Net which actually should do great! Here's the kicker - I'm in a hatch and i'm going to be building this box different than what i suppose to for a hatch. I know i'm going to lose some low bass output to the ear but this shouls still be hella loud- 3.8cubes Net @33hz Sub facing up towards glass, dual vents, one running along each side and end flush with the box pointing to the front of the car. The vents need to be over 30" a piece, that's why they are being wrapped around the box. I've done port forward setups before, just not any where the sub was facing up. I got some test boxes that a 15" BTL can fit in so i might do some testing once i order it to see. And yea, i think i'm gonna go with the BTL, that monster needs to be in my car.

he ports his to the rear. I used to own a car like that and i did the same thing. If they are anything like the AQs then they will dominate the lows with high output. I believe that's how the BLs are but let him tell you that since he's the one with the subs, hehe. You are going to need sound deadener, that's a given.

well, i just got done lookin at the install in the tC since i own the same car... I know some ways to gain more volume based on what i've been drawing in AutoCad vs what i see in that pic of the tC... He's in modified too and i can see that he is using part of the back seat area as the box. Unfortunately as a daily driver, i can't do that but still nice score.

haha, this is interesting. Everyone came to my city but i didnt go because for the past 6yrs there had been not much difference. I own an 07 tc and am studying this install, hehe

You are going to need an amp that is 4 channel and is stable down to 1 ohm per channel so you can bridge them @2ohms per side but i cant think of any of the top of my head or a 2 channel amp that can output some power @ 2ohms per channel.

3db is like doubling power or doubling the amount of drivers you have so it's pretty noticeable ON A MIC, not by ear. Although you may be able to tell by ear IF they really are 3db louder if you are so used to your Qs by now.

I've heard not to get a BTL unless you have at LEAST 2Kw, anything less than that, get the BL. According to Fi's website, the BLs are about 3db higher in efficiency than the Qs. If you do not think that's enough, either get more drivers, more power or build a different box.

ok, i understand that now, cool. Now onto the final questions, hehe. So i can run up to 4,000w of capable power to just 1 15 and it wants it... that's awesome. Comparison time - 3.8 cubes NET tuned to 32hz. My options are 3 10" BLs or 1 15" BTL. Now, i'm pretty sure 3 10s may exceed in that installation but if i feel that i do not want to go that route, you think 1 15" BTL in 3.8 NET is optimal enough for 4Kw? I believe that since i am giving it more power than usual that the box size should be a little on the smaller side, correct? The only true comparison is, there shouldn't be a noticeable difference between those 2 choices by ear correct? or which of the 2 would you go with if u were doing this? I love both setups, just cant decide.

oh, well then any one of those subs listed will work because you gotta build a box anyway. Well good luck.

No sir, have not listened to any of them. However, if you look, i did list all of the model numbers for each one so i suggest researching each one and see which one you like the best. The ones that do not have a box size listed, go to the manufacturer's website and read the manual for the sub or they might have the box specs right there. Make sure that whatever sub you choose can function properly in your door.

When you say lose acceleration and power... you are gonna have to talk to me like i'm a baby because i have never been serious in SPL comps so the anything related terminology-wise is just bla bla bla to me. Break it down for me, please. I know it loses motor mass but i dont know why that's bad and what happens with less motor mass. I know u said lose acceleration and power but you gotta break it down for me.

I like challenges http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/PUSA/Pro...allow/TS-SW841D That is a Pioneer 8" shallow mount driver. 120wrms\500w Peak sealed or free air use. 2.5" depth Kicker CVT 8" driver 200wrms\400w Peak Sealed or Ported 3 3\8th depth Earthquake SWS-8 150wrms\300w Peak in door or back dash installation 2 1\8th depth MA Audio MA80XE 250wrms\500w Peak sealed or ported 4.6" depth RE Audio RE8 175wrms\350w Peak sealed or ported 4" depth Polk Audio MOMO MM2084DVC 200wrms\400w Peak 4.25" depth Box size unknown MB QUART RWE204 150wrms\300w Peak 4.5" depth Box size unknown Selenium SEL-8PW3-SLF 125wrms\250w Peak 3.25" depth Box size unknown Infinity REF850W 200wrms\850w Peak 4.312" depth Box size unknown

Been debatin on 3 10" bls or 1 15" BTL off of 4Kw. I'm thinkin about goin with 1 15" BTL so i got some questions. What options do i need exactly for the following scenario? - It's for daily, tuned to 33hz, running off of 4kw of power. No SPL but i will be playing, sometimes, bass tracks for show off purposes. Absolutely no clipping guaranteed. Let me know if this is correct or if i should change\add something- Cooling, HIXMcoil, 3rd mag(do i need?), Daily. Can the BTL take 4KW daily? I know Meade does it but is it still safe in Fi's eyes? And i would like a discussion on the cooling option. It states not to get it if used for SPL. Can someone please define what specifically is implied there? There is less motor strength there, that's the only thing i know... Is there a new power handling limit involved? What is determined to be SPL? Constant test tones? including varying tones? I'm trying to determine the effects of a 15" BTL of 4KW using bass tracks. SPL comp setups may induce clipping into their run but this is not the purpose for this setup if that is what is implied.... Any info on all this?

One of the loudest songs i have ever heard is- Gorilla Pitz - Bring It That song, i believe, is illegal in bass race due to the bass being equivalent to test tones. It's either that or the other competition where you try to hold your highest average when playing a song. You are not allowed to play music whose bass is like test tones.

I'm pretty sure that battery cannot even be used for automotive purposes... and for the money, haha, that battery definitely...NO! 45aH for $133.... yea right... Plus, it needs 14.5-14.9v to charge which is pretty high for constant use and now for the really bad specs- 8 ohm resistance! Not, milli, 8 ohms!! There goes your alt and\or battery if you were pounding on your electrical system for months stressing it. Other bad part, cannot take a charge current of more than 22.5A... that's another problem.

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yea, 150sqin is low but also not runnin a lot of power when talkin about 6 15s either. Turbulence is not as high. 150 isn't recommended of course but if you were desperate for area, i believe 150 is the lowest possible before turbulence begins to become a nuisance in your music. The rule of thumb i've read before is never go above 140ft\sec when it comes to turbulence. It becomes to audible in the music. For SPL, get the turbulence as low as possible.

ah ha, now i know. Factory internal amp must be 4 channel... or should be for this adapter. Any extra channels may not work considering this is a 4 channel adapter. You would take each of the 4 channels from your aftermarket HU and wire them into the INPUT on this adapter. You would then take all of the OUTPUTS from this adapter and wire them to your amp or wire harness in your car, however it is in there. This is just like trying to hookup an amp to a factory stereo, same concept. Use high level inputs because most factory stereos do not have preouts.

Might be wrong but it looks like an adapter made so that when you replace your factory stereo with aftermarket one, you can still use the factory amp in the car. And if that's correct it may do it by using High Level inputs rather than rca jacks. But details on that, i'm clueless.

In terms of helping the sound out, they work best with unregulated power supplies. Regulated ones will try to output the same wattage at any voltage level. Unregulated outputs greater wattage at higher voltage levels. Caps discharge very fast. Batteries may not discharge as fast as a cap can. I don't know if there is batts out there that can, maybe there is, i dont know. However, caps are only to be used on an electrical system that already is capable of handling the load. If your running 2000w of power and your car is striving to give you this power you want, a cap is only goin to help for about a few seconds until it's drained. After it's drained, if you're still playing music, you are not allowing the alt to recharge the cap since your electrical system is not strong enough. The cap would then make it even worse, trust me, i've done this experiment. Stock alt, stock batt - 2,400w audiobahn amp wired down to 0.5 ohms bridged!(never got a chance to measure output but it was a BIG difference compared to 1 ohm bridged) with 2 1F caps. Voltage would dip from 14.2v down to 10.3v. Removed caps, voltage would dip from 14.2v to 11.6v. Gotta have the power to charge before using caps. Luckily that amp wasn't a class d amp or i would of had some issues soon.

Port - With your planned setup, you should be able to make a port anywhere between 150 - 400 sq in of port. Good luck. Your setup is gonna be a lot larger than mine but that also has to do with my limited space.