Where I'm from, system means anything from a pair of rear 6x9's to a complete overhaul of the vehicle. System was more than one component that wasn't originally on the car. Typically, it was used meaning a pair of subs and an amp. Where you are from sucks. I lol'd x2 sorry but that was hilarious So let me get this straight... M5 says something stupid (subs and stock crap are not a "system"), I correct him nicely, he says something mean to me, and now there's a lol circlejerk? WTF? I suspect you guys aren't getting your recommended daily allowance of CA.com....go be dicks there. When mods are being dicks...users leave I just got your PM, and don't get stressed about it. I hope the side discussion stops here. You both make a point about the term system, and we can leave it at that.