Aaron Clinton

To both, Bravox is closing their North American HQ / operations.

Sadly, it does not make sense what so ever, at this time, to be a distributor for Bravox, (though another dealer does not think so). Here is the deal, Bravox is built in Brazil and so their build costs are greater then companies that go to China etc. They are, on average, a higher end brand, and imported higher end brands are getting hit the hardest from the damaged American economy and constant lowering of customer awareness of quality and performance. Now with that said, Bravox had to continue to raise their prices over the last few years to stay in the USA. Well they hit a point where they were not selling enough and ownership decided to return all operations to Brazil. What is happening now, is their American headquarters is closing and we are able to blow out the remaining stock here in the USA. There are a number of models we had trouble moving only a few pair, even with these stupid low prices. Now looking at the logic, to sell the next series models, pricing will have to return to normal, but that normal will be much higher. Reason being is that Bravox is no longer importing product to the USA, so a distributor would have to (raising the price), now you have a distributor in between dealers and Bravox (raising the price), and new products traditionally go up a few dollars every years (again raising the price). All equaling to much more expensive pricing on products that have trouble selling at drastically discounted pricing, and with the brand leaving the continent lowers awareness, promotional, and makes dealing with Bravox much more difficult due to the international issues now in play. That is why it makes no sense to become a distributor for a brand that has struggled in sales the last few years. We sold off a bunch of our stock at our cost to a local dealer a couple of months back. We could become a distributor, but I am not going to tie up thousands of dollars in product that has all the above obstacles and have it sit here for way too long. If there was suddenly a crap load of demand for their products, or our pricing structure change greatly, things could change. But I used this group buy as a gauge to see the viability of continuing to sell Bravox, and it was not nearly strong enough sales wise to warrant continuing on, which is a shame as I have a great business relationship with the North American HQ and they really like us (actually in the middle of an email with them right now), and want us to become a distributor. I hope that was clear enough in my messy thought stream.

Less then a handful I believe.

Just got the word, the 603CF's should be on their way out to me tomorrow.

Please provide a LOT more information as to help people provide suggestions that are based one some sort of criteria.

Seeing that we are an Authorized dealer.....

Not deleted, just locked. Couldn't find it in the recent post nor in his posts. Whatever... Just moved.

In for pix.

Try going to school first. Learn Some basic business practices. This fool STRAIGHT UP LIES. He revoked Donnies sale on ebay then said they were broken, then sold them to someone else. THAT IS COMPLETE AND TOTAL HORSHIT unacceptable by any kind of business stand point. simple slime ball move. period. that shit is black and white and can be read in ONE thread. Just about to say fuck this forum. Its a shame too, there are some actual smart people here i can learn a lot from. Just shady shit and i dont like supporting anything like that. SSA CANNOT THINK KEVIN HAS ACCEPTABLE BUSINESS PRACTICES, YET THEY STILL ADVERTISE HIS COMPANY. DOLLAR DOLLAR BILLS YALL! Alright, you need to relax. I had been talking to Mark for a few weeks about removing Kevin/SKAR as we were taking some heat for his business practices. Now, we discussed it somewhat, and Kevin is now working to make right what went wrong. I have no problem dropping a company, we have done it a few times in the past. Kevin expressed to Mark that he understood he handled this very badly and now he is working on making it right. I am not defending Kevin, if you want to think of it this way, Kevin and his businesses here are on probation. If Mark and I were all about "DOLLAR DOLLAR BILLS YALL!" this site would be VERY VERY different and neither of us would be working full time day jobs. fair enough, I'm sorry i was letting my emotions do the typing last night. i think i made my point pretty clear though. You guys ARE advertising for him and ARE taking some heat, as you just stated, I was just curious what that "heat" is worth to the people running this board. Ya know? You are taking the risk by letting him continue, yet literally no one on this forum will take the risk to do business with him anymore. Just doesnt add up. Not worries, I know people can get passionate, and the fact that you posted it shows you care enough about the site to do so. I understand your point of view. The first issue was for Kevin to get to working on correcting the deals that did not go well, I did not want to remove anything before that is done.

I moved this here because it just was a total mess and Ryan is right, not worth cleaning up.

Keep the build pictures coming along.

Linked it on our FB page.

Try going to school first. Learn Some basic business practices. This fool STRAIGHT UP LIES. He revoked Donnies sale on ebay then said they were broken, then sold them to someone else. THAT IS COMPLETE AND TOTAL HORSHIT unacceptable by any kind of business stand point. simple slime ball move. period. that shit is black and white and can be read in ONE thread. Just about to say fuck this forum. Its a shame too, there are some actual smart people here i can learn a lot from. Just shady shit and i dont like supporting anything like that. SSA CANNOT THINK KEVIN HAS ACCEPTABLE BUSINESS PRACTICES, YET THEY STILL ADVERTISE HIS COMPANY. DOLLAR DOLLAR BILLS YALL! Alright, you need to relax. I had been talking to Mark for a few weeks about removing Kevin/SKAR as we were taking some heat for his business practices. Now, we discussed it somewhat, and Kevin is now working to make right what went wrong. I have no problem dropping a company, we have done it a few times in the past. Kevin expressed to Mark that he understood he handled this very badly and now he is working on making it right. I am not defending Kevin, if you want to think of it this way, Kevin and his businesses here are on probation. If Mark and I were all about "DOLLAR DOLLAR BILLS YALL!" this site would be VERY VERY different and neither of us would be working full time day jobs.

Actually no. We are not sweeping anything under the rug. Kevin has really begun to repair his reputation and improve his customer service. We did not decide on anything until he made his decision to refund the customers and make it right. Now that it appears he is working to turn things around, it is ok that SKAR remains for now. If we were sweeping this under the rug (like happens on other sites all the time), you would see topics deleted and posts deleted, but that is not the type of business we run or forum we lead, you can find that other places. Kevin now understands a little better in terms of the online world and I hope he realizes how important each and every transaction is. There still may be some changes, we take this stuff very seriously.

I will clean up the topic when I am in front of a computer.

Dear Mr. M5, This tool measures DISTORTION. Yes it takes a lot of power to build a real time analyzer to measure distortion. That is what it does, that is why it works. On top of that I did it in 100% analog. This is not a toy, don't kid yourself or lead other people to think it is especially when you didn't know. Tony D'Amore D'Amore Engineering Props for stopping in but you guys are wasting your time in here....it isnt worth arguing. It is never a waste here, because here people actually care about learning and getting real information.

Mark and I both talked to Kevin, in an offering of advice and suggestions to help him return to good graces. Kevin promised to make CS a major priority and work to improve his reputation.

Similar idea, but different limitations. The AA is pretty much the top of the heap in terms of a driver for music that takes big power.

For this run, yes. It is the last of the Carbon Fibers here in the USA. I will speak with them and find out what is left and maybe do one more inventory shortly.

Sorry to be a little behind schedule, but they will ship out to us Tuesday I believe.

No problem, just answered your PM.

Ordering up the 603cf's now. If these move, I can scatch up a bunch more.