Aaron Clinton

To be quite honest, shit like that is why I don't stray from SSA. I have a hard time dealing with subjective answers myself. I thought you were implying I am beating a dead horse and should stop...which is somewhat true, but at this point it is sheer amusement so I will continue to beat on it until it gives. Someone needs to do it.. Yes I agree Sean is very good at it. Yes you are beating a dead horse, but you need to make sure people know the difference between Voo Doo and Real Measurements Unfortunately on that site which is full of idiots and has a few idiots moderating, you are going to get nowhere. Wait, what site? A site that you are a mod on. That does not help. Was not sure if you were mixing up CA.com and CA-F.com.

Love the sound.

Reprogramming?

Is there some irony there when their sub woofers appear to be made over seas?

I have not touched any AB products in ages, plus I have seen very little talk of them too.

Spoke with the build house, and both drivers shipped. So it looks like someone got a freebie Dcon. Another one is being put in for build for you as I type this.

Blasphemy, beers should be filled as they have been filled during the time of our ancestors !

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I knew "Deephaven" was you... Now i know where you live He seems slightly better then the Blues Teammates about subjectivity and just getting sand in their vag... Sq_MGB is a cool guy but damn do they take things personally. I hate all this talk about "Voo Doo". I despise the Voodoo surrounding SQ in some crowds. And the same voodoo some SPL people spew. The one thing I KNOW is not voodoo is Totties SPL dust.

I hope we (SSA), when I try to explain why we change things it makes sense to people and is objective and simple enough. For example some of the changes on the Icon, mostly were about increasing abuse tolerance, and to do that we adjusted the suspension to a tiny bit stiffer, went to a harder dustcap and went to heartier leads to take more abuse, to add to that we have some adjustments coming to the Xcon too, but I will leave that for a later date.

To be quite honest, shit like that is why I don't stray from SSA. I have a hard time dealing with subjective answers myself. I thought you were implying I am beating a dead horse and should stop...which is somewhat true, but at this point it is sheer amusement so I will continue to beat on it until it gives. Someone needs to do it.. Yes I agree Sean is very good at it. Yes you are beating a dead horse, but you need to make sure people know the difference between Voo Doo and Real Measurements Unfortunately on that site which is full of idiots and has a few idiots moderating, you are going to get nowhere. Wait, what site?

As I am not fully caught up on the entire thing, I am wondering if maybe an example would help and they can just fill in the blanks maybe?

Tom? Might have been.

And considering the human ear and its insensitivity that is a great idea...and yes I still have amps that were used in 2010 that I bought in 1991. I want to start a revolution, call it; "its not about the power". Yes, we (SSA) do build a few higher power handling sub woofers, but people will never see tell someone you have to have rms power. For the real world in daily driving systems, the urge people have to run the most power possible is getting out of hand I think. Shag, I am not criticizing you at all, just speaking in general. I know as an online audio store owner, I should be saying buy the biggest amp possible for mark up purposes, but just a few years ago when power was not so cheap, almost no one was destroying their sub woofers. Now there is this mind set that most drivers will need a recone at some point. For example for my uses, I would prefer to get something like a ZED instead of a HiFonics. Yes, the HiFoincs has triple the ratted power and is 3x the foot print, but it no longer has the pedigree and does not give me the warm fuzzies in terms of quality performance and durability.

Sundown has quality amplifiers, that is why Mark suggested them. What ///M5 is getting at, is that there is no law that says you need to run rms power. It is better to have less power and a proper electrical system with gains set correctly then it is to have RMS or more then RMS power. As there is no such thing as "under powering", people don't need to focus so hard on wattage. Yes, headroom is very nice, but not paramount.

I am kind of in the same boat.

Been ages since I actually bought anything.

That is where I am wondering what is going on. If it got lost in shipping, we will eat it and send another up, just need to hear back from the build house first.

Could not have said it better, +1 for Jay-cee.

I am contacting the build house now as something does not add up. We will get this figured out. Weight wise, it is appearing that UPS shipping both drivers, I am wondering if something got messed up in customs.

Out of nearly 100 concerts I have been to, it was one of two that I ever left early.