That is odd. Sounds like they might have been opened at Bravox, but were not used. They are supposed to shipping out only NIB items. Maybe because these don't sound used, just opened, they might have considered them still new. Do you need the spacer rings for your install? Im not sure (First time Im going to be installing components) They are replacing factory speakers on my front doors. I will be using Scoshe 6x8 to 6.5 speaker adapters to make the woofer fit in the factory hole. Will I need the spacer? Also, you know, if you were to open a Bravox box right now, you have to first unlock the two little pieces that secure the first cover of the box. Well, one of those two is gone and the other piece is about to fall off. 1,2 and 3 really REALLY annoyed me. These were definitely opened before. Now, Im not as enthusiastic as I was when I ordered them. Kinda shows me that there is some lack of quality control from Bravox. We will see if by hearing them I somehow disregard about what just happened, expecting them to at least work like they should. But this will be something I will keep in mind before pulling the trigger on another Bravox set. If there is any issue moving forward, we will contact Bravox and get a set swapped out. Make sure you take some pictures if it is really noticeable.