Aaron Clinton

I used to swear by them, but they are not always needed. Most solid HU's are 4+ volts now. My initial need was because the length of RCA run in my old SUV. If you are worried about the utmost in output, or want to keep your amp gains down, or want to run a balanced signal and the amp can take it, then they are worth it. Personally I would love to run the Zapco's and Symbilink and have a balanced 16volt signal, but that is very pricey and the sound gains are minimal.

Personally, if you are set on Fi drivers, a pair of Q 12's sealed with about 1200-1700 watts will be a great start. If you want more output, then you could build a larger sealed, or ported box.

As for the JL / SSA+Sundown comparison, the W7 and the SSA Icon are both meant for sound quality, with good power handling and good excursion. No I am not saying the Icon will beat the W7 or the W7 will kill the Icon. Both will produce great sound in a well built box, and have solid output when given clean power. The price difference can partially be due to the JL Audio established name and a massive hype train at fulls steam ahead, the great performance record the W7 has, and that they are a large company that are dealer based. For SSA, we are much smaller, much newer, and the Icon is still pretty new to market, in addition the Icons are sold direct on the internet (with a few dealer reps too). So the W7 can command a larger price tag, but does it really command that much larger? Most say no. The JL 1000 amp is a good solid regulated amplifier that will be almost spot on 1000 watts regarless of voltage levels above 11 volts I think. It also has been around for a few years, has a big company behind it and is mostly sold in stores. The Sundown on the other hand, just like SSA, is a new company, just getting the name established, and the SAE-1000D is new to market, it will also do 1000 watts no sweat, but with a good electrical system they have been known to put out about 1100. So the turn here is, do you feel the extra money is worth it for a big name product who has a long history, or two well built products who have great names and customer service but are not big companies that will give very similar levels performance for less? If this is in a trunk car, the fine details that might be in favor for the JL are lost in the trunk anyway. Yes I am biased towards Sundown because I know Jacob does outstanding service, and the Icon is our (ssaudio/denim) subwoofer and we believe in its quality and performance (reviews and feedback support that), but I am trying to explain the difference in and unbiased manner.

Love how that worked out.

What matters is that it is with in the budget and she is happy.

There are not many eD people here. Do you have the parameters?

Remind me to check if I have it at home.

The Sundown SAZ-1500D has been a great match for a few people with a pair of Icons. Other safe bets; Kicker ZX1500.1, US Amps MD2D etc.

Maverick always plays his JL's in the danger zone.

Nice work.

I am going to close this.

That is a lot of ZED goodness.

Mine are at zero. Not installed yet.

Looks good.

Love the amps too.

SS section up and active.

Anthony will be here. This is a great place for him to announce products, post up news, show installed pix, and maybe even tutorials.

Be lock Rocky, weather did not bother him.

I day dream about what would be best for my next daily scooter. Was thinking used 325iX Wagon or used Speed3 or used Sti Wagon (if they are not touched).

3 MORE hours for us in the real world on the east coast.

What happened to the motorboat chick?

Dear Prudence?

well that's a sale to me lol, I'm suprised they're still so cheap. We have to do something to help attract people from mainstays in the segment (IDMAX etc.).

HBD and thank you and SI for being a long standing part of SSA.

Welcome, you have come to the right place.