You are right, there are not enough true 12" setups out there to reflect or use as an starting point. This will be experimental through trial and error to get the sound I am looking for and am comfortable with. I will definitely appreciate your help when it is time to install. Thanks for the recommendations sir! I looked into all of the mentioned. I am actually, thanks to you, am currently on bidding on a JBL product, starting at 160$ bid hehe Although, I think I will need more power than the JL can through out, but that may not be the case. Depending on the final ohm load I can achieve with whatever speaker and my zed Leviathan amp. Yes I have confirmed the space I have available. Should be plenty as the front region of the speaker is where the leg space is, me being skinny, I can come out a pretty good distance with whatever speaker is chosen. Yes, I am looking for the 12", mainly because it is something different. And that is what I want. I want that wow factor, but also to sound good while doing it, not just the wow factor in itself. If it is not Auditorium quality sound, I am ok with that. The car is the worst place for a speaker to be placed is, so I will take my compromise where I can. The reason for this thread, is for other users to get some ideas as well I understand Horns are not full range, and that why I am looking for a mid-bass driver that can play high enough, to mat with the horns. Obviously, the higher the better. I will start off at 1k and work from there. If I can't get the midbass play high enough, I will then try to EQ the gap. Again, to reiterate, yes, focusing on a smaller driver and optimizing it's implementation will be better, and superior than trying to fit an 12", but for my personal desire, I am wanting/choosing to get a bigger woofer inside. I just don't want said woofer to sound like ass, and hopefully score me atleast an 60 while competing. Yes I know that's a shitty score for SQ comp, based out of 100, but no one else is scoring that high with the ability to score high on the SPL meter as well. Which is my primary goal for this year. Thanks no so much to J-roadtatts, I have now began much research to have a better founding understanding, of the acoustical properties of an driver and it's implementation. I am not far more informed, of what drivers to use, and their associated environments. I have also gained a better understanding of the Equalization process. I hope I have cleared some of the responses in this thread and in no way or shape am I rejected anybody's suggestions. Its just that I am looking for suggestions that are in line with what I am looking for.