Billy Jack

Yes I understand having a tiny little NVX amp want blow anything but if you have a real amp that has enough power to push your sub past its mechanical or thermal limit then a clipped signal will in fact burn it up if your not careful. You know exactly what I mean but want to act silly and make it out like I'm suggesting something I'm not.

And are we wrong M5 by telling him to turn his gain up until it distorts then back it off a little until it sounds good or should he go buy $2500 worth of high end equipment to adjust a $200 amp?

But it's not on its own is it. He already said he had 4volts of input which is plenty and just like I said before I have never ever seen a amp need to have the gain and bass boost set to 100% at that input voltage. Maybe your junk NVX or PPI or Polk may need it but I haven't used or seen those in use except the 3000 watt NVX in which it took a entire suv loaded to the b-pillars to do a 151. Pathetic!!!!

Wait a minute just 2 seconds ago you said the amp was fine at 100% gain and distortion can't hurt anything. So which is it, it can't be both ways it either is or it ain't.

Uhh that's what I said already. I love how you always say I'm wrong then go and say the exact thing I said just in different wording.

I didn't know D'Amore even made amps I know they make amp dyno's and DD1's and all that stuff. I actually learned something on SSA thank you! Ow and it's kind of sad that American bass isn't made in the USA. But what is any more. The Chevy heart beat of America is mostly built in Mexico now. I actually own the number one car for having the most American parts and being built in the US Dodge Avenger R/T.

What amps are left that are still made in the USA? Are the American Bass made in the US or are the zenon boards?

See ^ 4volt pre-out so 100% gain is more then likely 50% to much. Almost every alpine I have ran I ended up with the gain set about half way up that's where mine is right now and it's been playing for 3 years now with no problems.

Yes I know all of this but even at the lowest voltage modern h/u make 100% of the gain is more then likely to much. The only way I have ever seen a amp gain need to be turned wide open is if someone was using like a iPhone or MP3 player hooked directly to there amp never with a head unit even the cheap Walmart ones. That's what I was saying not that the gain ups the wattage everybody knows that or atleast they should. Why do you think I told him to adjust it the exact same way you did. Turn until you hear distortion then back it off a little. That's how it's done if you don't have the proper equipment to do it right and must do it by ear.

No doudt the sub can take it but I bet the amp is about to go poof if the gain is at 100% and sometimes when one goes it can take the other component with it. But yea you don't want to go to far either way like tripling the power to a sub even if it's a clean signal or having a amp rated at 1/2 the subs rms running the gain at wide open is not good either. A perfect scenario is having a amp rated just over the subs rms and turning the gain down a little so the sub gets good clean power and the amp doesn't strain to push it and has plenty of headroom and it also provides more sound quality.

I don't know where you heard clipping doesn't kill subs but that's exactly what kills them. The signal is turned into heat and all that heat will burn your coils. But to much power can also kill them by overdriving them into mechanical failure.

If you turned the gain all the way up your definetly clipping the amp, and sending the sub a distorted signal, which will burn it up. A distorted signal will burn a voice coil faster then over powering a sub with clean power. Just adjust your head unit until you hear distortion, then back it off just a bit, then do the same on the sub amp. It's not gonna do a whole lot, cause, well it's a entry level amp, and sub that's more for just filling in the low's, then moving a lot of air. If you feel you need more bass, just use the amp on your highs and mids only, and buy a dedicated mono amp for your subs so you can feed them some clean power. And if all that ain't enough, just upgrade subs if you have the funds of course. But definetly don't just turn your gain to 100%, you will fry stuff like that it's just a matter of time. And if you wanna know if a amp or sub is hot, just touch it. You can feel the dust cover on a sub, and tell if it's getting too hot.

Lmfao?

I was just about to ask that very question. Good to know I might have to try a set on a active set up since everyone says there better.

Holy cow 10 cubic feet for a 21" warden. Anybody got a u-haul box truck their not using I wanna do a blow through with 6 of those. Lol could you just imagine that. I kid, I kid.

And here is exactly what I'm talking about. ^ He always has to toss in the little insult "uneducated", of course we where uneducated we where kids, where you born with a PHD nope you where not. Let me ask you a question M5 can you take a blue print and build a bridge from the river bottom up because I can and does it make you ignorant because you don't hold a degree in every field out there like bridge design? Now would I be polite calling you ignorant because of this fact no I wouldn't cause nobody knows everything unless he walked on water and is named Jesus.

I get along good with everyone here except M5 he just rubs me the wrong way and I'm not one to hold my tongue. Maybe I'm wrong and something is getting lost in translation but I don't think so.

Thanks Aaron and yea sorry I hit the r twice in your name I'm typing this on a tiny iPhone 6 keyboard and I got big arthritic fingers so I miss the tiny buttons some time. And yes M5 does rub me the wrong way but like I said before maybe it's just how it sounds in text. Like key and peal did a monologue of this very thing one guy texts another a friendly message but the way it's worded its perceived as a threat and by the time the friendly guy shows up the other thinks he wants to fight. Maybe that's what's going on.

Don't be negative and call me a liar and I want give you bad rep. I never said one ill word to anyone I explained we just never tried it and you say I have never had a system I'm just guessing. I wasn't implying anything I'm sure installed properly these house speakers do sound better no doudt I just ain't never tried it.

Maybe I'm wording my explanation wrong but I assure you I have had many, many, systems. But they where made for cars I didn't turn my doors into speaker boxes and all that like you guys do now. I'm old school in my day we usually had 2 amps one for subs one for components that we placed in factory locations. We always used rows of battery banks instead of HO Alts because back then they where rediculously expensive and hard to come buy. I started like a lot of kids in the early 90's with a set of W1's in small sealed boxes and pretty quickly moved up to 3 12w6v1's ran off Phoenix gold M100 and had the M50 on my infinity cappa components. Then I went for a b pillar wall with 4 15" L7 kicker squares ran off 4 ZX2500 amps in a Z28 with a hatch full of optima yellow tops we had to charge every night before going cruising. I also had 2 death penalty 15"s ran off a US2000x in a trunk car and I have always just used factory locations for component speakers with the tweeter aimed at my ear. When I got back into it a couple of years ago I did the same thing with my avenger I use a mono block to run my sub and replaced all the factory speaker locations and added a second battery in the back. Basically you guys still use the same method of sub stage we did but have switched to running active house speakers on your front stage with no rear's. But even still I don't see many audio shops doing it your guys way most still just replace the factory's for automotive components and through some bass in running passive is this because it's so much easier or cheaper or what?

They wasn't. I left them in the boxes and laid them down in the hatch. It was some ghetto shit. Lol

House stereo's do sound better but There in a entirely better environment. I ran some cerwin vega home audio speakers in a geo once they sounded ok. But some house speakers can go up to $1000's a set or even more for the really high end stuff so they should sound good. To me it just seems like over kill to run them in a car. I guess I like my house stereo aimed for perfect sq cause it's a lot easier and my car to just be rediculously loud like cracking the concrete as I roll down the block. In my cars I don't care as much about imaging and covering the frequency range I like really low low's and really high pitched mids and highs. I even try to adjust out a lot of my mid bass not all just some I think it might have something to do with my bad hearing but I have always preferred that sound in the car. But it's gotta be clear no distortion or rattling or anything else but music.

Am I wrong or isn't that a tweeter for a house stereo?

Welcome. You running anything now? Audio, performance mod's, wheels?

Your right everyone here is very helpful except one person, and I refuse to be nice while someone talks down to me, and makes little snide remarks. I have no problem with someone correcting me, or having their own opinion, but it's the insults, and condescending talk I can't tolerate. I'm a very easy going person and polite until you piss me off.