September 24, 200816 yr Admin damn you like humiliating me huh?Sean may come across harsh, but he is trying to be helpful.
September 24, 200816 yr he makes me want to shoot myself :[ lol im new to this hobby and i would like a lil patience :/
September 24, 200816 yr Admin he makes me want to shoot myself :[ lol im new to this hobby and i would like a lil patience :/SSA is all about sharing and helping ideas and experience, but sometimes I know people get frustrated when new members make it hard to help or are seemingly unwilling to open up their plans or options. Not saying you are, but it is a source of a few conflicts.
September 24, 200816 yr Author Sorry to break up your CONVO! lol butthe 1200d can not be distributed to UK, so i've been offered a 1500d which i am willing to take!Couple of Questions. what wire best to run this amp 0?and when you talk about gain on these amps, does gain work like this?you have a 1000 watt amp with a 500 watt sub, so in theory you set the gain at 50% to set the amp to give out half it's potential. Or is it totally different! sorry i have no exp!Get back to me PezAs im getting the 1500d now. i may as well run the AA Havoc, would you say so?
September 24, 200816 yr get the havoc its a little better than the Q on lows and will handle the power fine.the gain is to match the rca outputs of the headunit. gains normaly range from 8v-200mv 8v being very little gain if you have a headunit with 5v preouts you would turn the gain slightly to match the 5v to achieve full power if you want less output from your amp turn the gain down. if your headunit has 2v preout you would need more gain to achieve full power. if you turn the gain higher than your preout voltage the max output will be acheived at lower volume but if you pass that volume you will send a clipped signal than will produce distortion and heat that can blow a sub or speaker
September 24, 200816 yr Author Cool thanks buddy!i see now!, so i'd say it's possible to set the gain by ear? when you think and like the volume you get for the volume the HU is saying. if you get me. without setting the gain immensly high and saying wow look at my 1 volume! and get a nice range through out your range!if i was to find HU i like would someone be able to tell me a rough gain i need to set?as i maybe won't be able to tell what the volume range of the sub is :S
September 25, 200816 yr Cool thanks buddy!i see now!, so i'd say it's possible to set the gain by ear? when you think and like the volume you get for the volume the HU is saying. if you get me. without setting the gain immensly high and saying wow look at my 1 volume! and get a nice range through out your range!if i was to find HU i like would someone be able to tell me a rough gain i need to set?as i maybe won't be able to tell what the volume range of the sub is :SIf you dont have a meter you could do it by ear, <this might require a trained ear but normally its qute obvious. you can do it like this.set the volume on the headunit around where you would like to turn it up to(NEVER GO TO MAX) normally around 20 dependant on brand and model works nice. Turn the gain and bassboost all the way down on your amp. BASBOOST=BADthen play a tone lets say of around 45-50 hz then slowly turn up the gain till you hear the sound of the sub changing..then back of a little. This is considdered a a fairly good way of doing it. But best yet if ur not sure get it on a O scope is fail proof (not noob proof) but the right way of doing it.
September 25, 200816 yr I used that exact same amp install kit and that exact wire for my AA Havoc lol!Yeah use the 1/0 wire.AA Havoc is an amazing sub dude.Do you have any RCA's or amp turn on leads? If not, you will need those b/c they don't come w/ that amp install kit (there are ones that do though!)Just get a 200 amp external fuse.Gains are not volume knobs, and they aren't simple. There are How-to's everywhere on how to set your gains properly.http://www.rockfordfosgate.com/scripts/rig...9MQ**&p_li=http://www.rockfordfosgate.com/scripts/rig...9MQ**&p_li=www.bladeice.comGood website to buy AA subs. Edited September 25, 200816 yr by nick_19
September 25, 200816 yr Author Thanks buddies, i nearly know everything to set my stuff up 8]yeh i had rough ideas on gain and stuff but thanks for clearing it outLOL that's where i was buying my fi Q, but then saw the Havoc which i think you told me about before 8]im just gunna look to find them other cables on that knuconcepts thing!Cheers.
September 25, 200816 yr Author Running a 1500d takes masses of power i have heard,what would i need to take into consideration to stop it taking to much or over heating :Sonly a small car it will be going in, 2002 clio or corsa :Sjust finalizing up now
September 25, 200816 yr Author Where has the Fi site gone 8]^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Answer Above please ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
September 25, 200816 yr Running a 1500d takes masses of power i have heard,It depends on how hard you are with your equipment. Saying that everyone needs to upgrade their alternator and run multiple batteries for one is a fallacy, but some people are going to be more abusive to their stuff than others.
September 25, 200816 yr Where has the Fi site gone 8]^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Answer Above please ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^What do you mean by this?It's two hours, get some patience
September 25, 200816 yr Author O lol, no i dont go on that much i use blade ICE being from the UK,and i read that someone said there was going to be a new Fi line, so i looked for webby and thought maybe it has moved or something Sorry!
September 26, 200816 yr Author Ok peeps, getting real close now! must be about sorted1) AA Havoc 15" Dual 22) 2 Ft. sealed3) Sundown SAz-1500d4) Pioneer Premier TS C720PRS5) SAX 100.2?http://www.knukonceptz.co.uk/productDetail...?prodID=KLM-AK0 - wiring!Any advicePez
September 26, 200816 yr Author 1.5-3.0 Cubic feet :S - according to BladeiCEi think :SDual to will go into a 1500d at 1 ohm wont it ?
September 26, 200816 yr Author Yes?Also will be stock alternator but struggerling to find what amp it ishope i wont need a new one
September 29, 200816 yr What is the size of your stock alternator?If you can't find out just tell what year/model your car is.1) Sub looks good. Dual 2 ohm will get you 1 ohm at the amp when wired like:http://www.rockfordfosgate.com/rftech/woof...mp;woofer_imp=32) The recommended box for the AA Havoc 15 is 1.5-3.0 cu ft. I'm not experienced w/ sealed so someone else will have to answer for that.3) Perfect amp.4) Looks like a damn nice component set!5) Great amp, just watch your gains on those components.Your kit will be perfect for power, just make sure you pick up some RCA's from somewhere.
September 29, 200816 yr Author Vauxhall Corsa 2002, Sux car but insurance is a killer at 17 -.-Ahhh so i'm getting close Got wiring sorted out mate somebody popped online and help me, Got RCA's SortedGains will be set, i'll do it with a volt meter to get 35 volts... for the 1250W RMS sub? Gains wont be set to full thought i'm not stupid im sure will get plenty loudNeed to find a HU which will suite all components of my set up, such as number of RCA's pre-out and stuff (Might need help, don't Know yet)
September 29, 200816 yr Just pick an H/U and post up what you want and we'll check.Try to find one with subwoofer pre-amps and a pre-amp voltage of at least 4 volts.Uhh... I'll let others comment on setting the gain. The proper way is with an oscilloscope, but those aren't easy to find.I just do it by ear, and check w/ DMM. Edited September 29, 200816 yr by nick_19
September 29, 200816 yr Author Can anyone back me up or advise me on the AA havoc sealed box size?need a Cubic foot i should aim for so hopefully i can get it made this week or nextThanksPez xWhat do you think of this HUhttp://looksmartpro.com/product_info.php/products_id/11521 - I like this one but says it doesnt have a CD interface -.-or thishttp://caraudiosecurity.com/shop/product/p...ts_id/8125.html
September 30, 200816 yr You will be fine with stock alternator. Just get a decent sized battery with around 1000CCA available.If you want to pick up a Q12 or 15, might want to do that in the next week or so. We will be closed for 2 wks as I'm off on Holiday. Also, our stock is running low on Qs so don't miss out or you might end up waiting 5-6 wks for the next lot to arrive. Just a heads up
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