The truck and trailer look slightly undersized for that boat...

Truck, no..other than being a GM so it can't tow. Trailer, not really either but it looks to me like it isn't loaded far enough forward.

My boat weighs more than that Sea Ray...the ML tows it great.

FUCK YOU WEATHER. Biggest snowfall of the year in MN today.

We got 2 feet on the mountian tops yesterday.

We got 18" at 500' elevation yesterday

So why aren't you on teh sled?

The truck and trailer look slightly undersized for that boat...

Truck, no..other than being a GM so it can't tow. Trailer, not really either but it looks to me like it isn't loaded far enough forward.

My boat weighs more than that Sea Ray...the ML tows it great.

What does a boat in that size range weigh?

Boat noob here.

tax related brain ache.

Let's pray it fits in my door.

Cuft? Port freq and area?

0.635 Gross

2.5" x 5.5" long - 60Hz

Cool. If you don't dig on the Sundowns I have some recommendations that'll fit in those enclosures then They might prefer slightly higher tuning, but that's pretty close.

I don't have that much experience to tell if they are good or not so I'll probably stick with them.

And not really into spending even more money.

FUCK YOU WEATHER. Biggest snowfall of the year in MN today.

We got 2 feet on the mountian tops yesterday.

We got 18" at 500' elevation yesterday

So why aren't you on teh sled?

Because it fell 2 hours North of me and I didn't find out about it until last night. On my way to CA today :( :(

The truck and trailer look slightly undersized for that boat...

Truck, no..other than being a GM so it can't tow. Trailer, not really either but it looks to me like it isn't loaded far enough forward.

My boat weighs more than that Sea Ray...the ML tows it great.

What does a boat in that size range weigh?

Boat noob here.

Mine weighs somewhere around 7500lbs

Let's pray it fits in my door.

Cuft? Port freq and area?

0.635 Gross

2.5" x 5.5" long - 60Hz

Cool. If you don't dig on the Sundowns I have some recommendations that'll fit in those enclosures then They might prefer slightly higher tuning, but that's pretty close.

I don't have that much experience to tell if they are good or not so I'll probably stick with them.

And not really into spending even more money.

You don't understand... you don't have a choice.

Let's pray it fits in my door.

Cuft? Port freq and area?

0.635 Gross

2.5" x 5.5" long - 60Hz

Cool. If you don't dig on the Sundowns I have some recommendations that'll fit in those enclosures then They might prefer slightly higher tuning, but that's pretty close.

I don't have that much experience to tell if they are good or not so I'll probably stick with them.

And not really into spending even more money.

You'll always be able to flip the Sundowns. Just saying that the enclosure size you chose in general works pretty well for PA style drivers. You may want to be prepared to raise the tuning if it can't quite handle the lows. I haven't seen T/S specs for it yet but am a little suspect of tuning it that low. Normally 70Hz is sort of the bottom end for a 10" PA and not many will do that. Obviously that is an off the shelf PA mid of some sort, the only question is which one. Perhaps there are some changes done to it, but my guess is they are minimal.

oonse oonse or wub wub?

I went with that their designer told me, 60.

I am listening it to it right now sealed with a 33 hertz song and it's making a pretty good pressure. Don't know if that matter when talking about getting low in the mid-range freqs.

oonse oonse or wub wub?

Mmm, both.

<-- Just got thirty albums of Santana. I like that the majority of the songs have a nice mix of instruments with stellar percussion.

Hopefully mostly early albums.

Any with other "famous" musicians?

Abraxas, Borboletta, Freedom, Lotus (1,2,3), Marathon, and the list keeps going.

It was a discography, so it may be not have stuff released in the last few years, but everything else.

Ugh got a little bit happy with the bid button, now I am in the lead.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251038339892?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1431.l2649

Let's pray it fits in my door.

Cuft? Port freq and area?

0.635 Gross

2.5" x 5.5" long - 60Hz

Cool. If you don't dig on the Sundowns I have some recommendations that'll fit in those enclosures then They might prefer slightly higher tuning, but that's pretty close.

I don't have that much experience to tell if they are good or not so I'll probably stick with them.

And not really into spending even more money.

You'll always be able to flip the Sundowns. Just saying that the enclosure size you chose in general works pretty well for PA style drivers. You may want to be prepared to raise the tuning if it can't quite handle the lows. I haven't seen T/S specs for it yet but am a little suspect of tuning it that low. Normally 70Hz is sort of the bottom end for a 10" PA and not many will do that. Obviously that is an off the shelf PA mid of some sort, the only question is which one. Perhaps there are some changes done to it, but my guess is they are minimal.

I'd love to stick something in there geared for midbass. *drools*

Although the sundown probably has enough cone area to still have a good amount.

Edited April 17, 201213 yr by stefanhinote

I don't get this new "dubstep" crap. The whole new generation has no respect.

Back in my day we took a bunch of pills and pot and had a good time rollin faces off and eating smarties. Now kids are huffing angina meds while choking themselves out and getting all emotional with the ladies.

WTF happened to the good old days.

I don't game too much anymore but I am cheesed for this.

That is my kind of wub wub.

Pretty much agree...with the caveat on the cars being a bit different. I drive a Mercedes. Not because I give a rats ass that it is a Mercedes, but I wanted the best crossover vehicle (drives like a car, pulls a trailer) that would be the least of a compromise. Most people buy things for status. That is pathetic, buying anything extreme for actual use is a completely different situation.

I understand that exactly. And I will be looking for a car that is hell of a lot of fun to drive, but is also capable of being comfortable for long trips. If the best for my money ends up being a Honda Accord then that's what I would want to get.

Honda Accords are NOT fun to drive, lol.

Well considering I drive a 1995 Saturn. When my friend and I traded cars for a weekend (2005 Accord V6) I was quite happy

Then you'd absolutely LOVE the new 3 series.

You would love a Honda Accord Mike, the gas milage and reliability make it worth it alone. While not as fun as an Audi or Bimmer to drive, still a pretty zippy ride with decent handling.

Yikes, no. Even the reliability is questionable. Hands down by far the car that have caused my friends the most trouble. Everyone of them with one is always complaining about it being in the shop and the repair prices are as bad as BMW. And they are far from fun to drive. FWD SUCKS!

I'm so there are plenty of fwd cars I would be content with (and not break), but I've already destroyed both my front drive axles.

Lesson learned: I can't drive my car like I ride my bike.

Let's pray it fits in my door.

Cuft? Port freq and area?

0.635 Gross

2.5" x 5.5" long - 60Hz

Cool. If you don't dig on the Sundowns I have some recommendations that'll fit in those enclosures then They might prefer slightly higher tuning, but that's pretty close.

I don't have that much experience to tell if they are good or not so I'll probably stick with them.

And not really into spending even more money.

You'll always be able to flip the Sundowns. Just saying that the enclosure size you chose in general works pretty well for PA style drivers. You may want to be prepared to raise the tuning if it can't quite handle the lows. I haven't seen T/S specs for it yet but am a little suspect of tuning it that low. Normally 70Hz is sort of the bottom end for a 10" PA and not many will do that. Obviously that is an off the shelf PA mid of some sort, the only question is which one. Perhaps there are some changes done to it, but my guess is they are minimal.

I'd love to stick something in there geared for midbass. *drools*

Although the sundown probably has enough cone area to still have a good amount.

I wouldn't say that those are geared for midbass. Upper midbass sure, but not midbass. Pro audio drivers ALWAYS give up frequency extension for sensitivity. Absolutely no way around that.

Of course they are 10's which help the cause a ton I am sure they will still start rolling off around 100Hz though so to me that means they are not midbass drivers. In the PA world they will call them that, but their subs are geared to play up there as well.

Pretty much agree...with the caveat on the cars being a bit different. I drive a Mercedes. Not because I give a rats ass that it is a Mercedes, but I wanted the best crossover vehicle (drives like a car, pulls a trailer) that would be the least of a compromise. Most people buy things for status. That is pathetic, buying anything extreme for actual use is a completely different situation.

I understand that exactly. And I will be looking for a car that is hell of a lot of fun to drive, but is also capable of being comfortable for long trips. If the best for my money ends up being a Honda Accord then that's what I would want to get.

Honda Accords are NOT fun to drive, lol.

Well considering I drive a 1995 Saturn. When my friend and I traded cars for a weekend (2005 Accord V6) I was quite happy

Then you'd absolutely LOVE the new 3 series.

You would love a Honda Accord Mike, the gas milage and reliability make it worth it alone. While not as fun as an Audi or Bimmer to drive, still a pretty zippy ride with decent handling.

Yikes, no. Even the reliability is questionable. Hands down by far the car that have caused my friends the most trouble. Everyone of them with one is always complaining about it being in the shop and the repair prices are as bad as BMW. And they are far from fun to drive. FWD SUCKS!

I'm so there are plenty of fwd cars I would be content with (and not break), but I've already destroyed both my front drive axles.

Lesson learned: I can't drive my car like I ride my bike.

AWD can be okay...

Nero - Doomsday

I'll probably play Zero.

Let's pray it fits in my door.

Cuft? Port freq and area?

0.635 Gross

2.5" x 5.5" long - 60Hz

Cool. If you don't dig on the Sundowns I have some recommendations that'll fit in those enclosures then They might prefer slightly higher tuning, but that's pretty close.

I don't have that much experience to tell if they are good or not so I'll probably stick with them.

And not really into spending even more money.

You'll always be able to flip the Sundowns. Just saying that the enclosure size you chose in general works pretty well for PA style drivers. You may want to be prepared to raise the tuning if it can't quite handle the lows. I haven't seen T/S specs for it yet but am a little suspect of tuning it that low. Normally 70Hz is sort of the bottom end for a 10" PA and not many will do that. Obviously that is an off the shelf PA mid of some sort, the only question is which one. Perhaps there are some changes done to it, but my guess is they are minimal.

I'd love to stick something in there geared for midbass. *drools*

Although the sundown probably has enough cone area to still have a good amount.

I wouldn't say that those are geared for midbass. Upper midbass sure, but not midbass. Pro audio drivers ALWAYS give up frequency extension for sensitivity. Absolutely no way around that.

Of course they are 10's which help the cause a ton I am sure they will still start rolling off around 100Hz though so to me that means they are not midbass drivers. In the PA world they will call them that, but their subs are geared to play up there as well.

I didn't say they were! I said exactly what you said.

I now have hours and hours of new music, and none of it is in mp3 format!

Nero - Doomsday

I'll probably play Zero.

I don't know any dubfawk music. But that joint is ok in my book.

What is Zero?