If that were the 530i and 6 speed, there could not be a more perfect car for me for SSA show stuff.

It needs the M package!

I agree, but the insurance and the fuel would put it out of practical for me.

Oh, and I know a stock LT1 Impala can tow about 2000 lbs at 75 mph without problem. Got about 10 mpg too.

I cannot believe transformers did not win for special effects.

I cannot believe transformers did not win for special effects.

what beat it?

Hmm, think I could tow a 4000lb boat with that? I know they would in Europe.

If it were a diesel.... maybe

A big v8 should be more than fine no?

Probably, but I don't think BMW ever put one in one of those

But, there are LT1 wagons.

And plenty of old Nova, Chevelle, and Impala wagons that can carry a big block.

They imported 540 wagons, and obviously sold M wagons in Europe. I almost bought a grey market touring when I bought my M.

If that were the 530i and 6 speed, there could not be a more perfect car for me for SSA show stuff.

It needs the M package!

I agree, but the insurance and the fuel would put it out of practical for me.

The fuel perhaps, but you'd be surprised on the insurance. No one wrecks M5's so they are cheap to insure. Mine is actually the cheapest car to insure that I have owned in the past 5 years. 60% of the price of the truck.

Oh, and I know a stock LT1 Impala can tow about 2000 lbs at 75 mph without problem. Got about 10 mpg too.

And handles as well as a pickup

Not quite fair to compare that with a M class 5 series, one is very, very fun in the twisties the other is a barge.

Hmm, think I could tow a 4000lb boat with that? I know they would in Europe.

If it were a diesel.... maybe

A big v8 should be more than fine no?

Probably, but I don't think BMW ever put one in one of those

But, there are LT1 wagons.

And plenty of old Nova, Chevelle, and Impala wagons that can carry a big block.

They imported 540 wagons, and obviously sold M wagons in Europe. I almost bought a grey market touring when I bought my M.

Would a BMW V8 have enough low end to tow? Seems like most of their stuff is all top end.

Oh, and I know a stock LT1 Impala can tow about 2000 lbs at 75 mph without problem. Got about 10 mpg too.

And handles as well as a pickup

Not quite fair to compare that with a M class 5 series, one is very, very fun in the twisties the other is a barge.

Not going to argue that. I was only talking about towing ability.

Ha, I've seen 518's towing 3000lb campers in Europe. (maybe 516, either way dinky four banger). If you drive an M with the 8, you wouldn't ask that question. Plenty of low end power and silky smooth throughout the rev range. Of course not an American torque monster, but really my boat is rather light and that isn't necessary. Hell it towed super easy with a 2dr Ford Exploder sport 3.0L v6 and that thing had nothing on the bottom or top end.

Steve, one of my best friends just bought an 06 CTS. 10k miles, $19k...

I don't think it has a ton of options, and may not even be a good deal (he told me after the fact ) but thought I would let you know. He picks it up next Saturday so I will know more then.

Ah, good to know. Find yourself an M wagon then, or at least a 540.

Oh, and I know a stock LT1 Impala can tow about 2000 lbs at 75 mph without problem. Got about 10 mpg too.

And handles as well as a pickup

Not quite fair to compare that with a M class 5 series, one is very, very fun in the twisties the other is a barge.

Not going to argue that. I was only talking about towing ability.

I was just being an ass, I do find it amusing to go from a BMW M5 touring to an LT1 though...takes balls to offer that as a solution.

Ah, good to know. Find yourself an M wagon then, or at least a 540.

I am looking for something faster

Ah, good to know. Find yourself an M wagon then, or at least a 540.

I am looking for something faster

I'm sure they make Forced Induction kits for those things. If you got the M5 wagon, you wouldn't even have to change your sceenname.

Oh, and I know a stock LT1 Impala can tow about 2000 lbs at 75 mph without problem. Got about 10 mpg too.

And handles as well as a pickup

Not quite fair to compare that with a M class 5 series, one is very, very fun in the twisties the other is a barge.

Not going to argue that. I was only talking about towing ability.

I was just being an ass, I do find it amusing to go from a BMW M5 touring to an LT1 though...takes balls to offer that as a solution.

I didn't realize they ever put a V8 in that body style so I thought you meant something American and it just went from there.

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If that were the 530i and 6 speed, there could not be a more perfect car for me for SSA show stuff.

It needs the M package!

I agree, but the insurance and the fuel would put it out of practical for me.

The fuel perhaps, but you'd be surprised on the insurance. No one wrecks M5's so they are cheap to insure. Mine is actually the cheapest car to insure that I have owned in the past 5 years. 60% of the price of the truck.

I love v8's and the 540i is one of my favorite drives of all time. But I think I am going to stick to straight 6's for a while. They have all been good to me and my family. I loved my turbo 4, but T for trouble, and the only 4 cylinder big enough for my needs was years ago and I don't think Stutgartt is going to make another 3 litre 4 banger any time soon.

No v8 with AWD though AWD or 4WD is something I am pretty keen on for the next rig. Will make it a more useful second car to whatever muscle bound piece I end up with.

If that were the 530i and 6 speed, there could not be a more perfect car for me for SSA show stuff.

It needs the M package!

I agree, but the insurance and the fuel would put it out of practical for me.

The fuel perhaps, but you'd be surprised on the insurance. No one wrecks M5's so they are cheap to insure. Mine is actually the cheapest car to insure that I have owned in the past 5 years. 60% of the price of the truck.

I love v8's and the 540i is one of my favorite drives of all time. But I think I am going to stick to straight 6's for a while. They have all been good to me and my family. I loved my turbo 4, but T for trouble, and the only 4 cylinder big enough for my needs was years ago and I don't think Stutgartt is going to make another 3 litre 4 banger any time soon.

I agree on the straight 6 actually, part of the reason that I am not shopping for BM'ers. The reliability of their straight 6's is unbelievable, their v8's while great engines aren't anywhere near as robust.

I used to have a German 4 cylinder 3.0L

It had a T as well

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Goodnight!

night Sean