while looking for a ink to theuberwooferi came across tc ,they do aseveral 12s? doesnt the technolagy for the ss 12 comes from tc? so my question is,what the difference between the ss 12 and a tc 12? in a nutshell?

I think the SS rlp12 use TC9 technology, there are other technology that TC (TC2+, etc) has. Someone with better knowledge can clear this up

I think the SS rlp12 use TC9 technology, there are other technology that TC (TC2+, etc) has. Someone with better knowledge can clear this up

Yup. The Rl-p is based off of the TC Sounds TC9 (with some changes), and the Rl-i is an exact photocopy of the TC2+.

As for the exact differences between the "stock" TC9, and the Rl-p......I have no idea.

humm difference right off the bat might be customer service, Mike's service is more than enough for many people to go with SoundSplinter

humm difference right off the bat might be customer service, Mike's service is more than enough for many people to go with SoundSplinter

LOL.....yeah.

Think of it as two cars with the same motor but different suspensions. Although they will have very similar performance in the straights (but even then they won't because you get better launches with stiffer suspensions), when you unleash them on the twisties is where you will really see the differences. Maybe one oversteers and the other understeers. One may be jittery and the other might be neutral. I think the only way you will get an idea of the differences is to listen to each but they are not the same. Mike?

The TC9 12 and the RL-p12 are very close in nature. At the time of the RL-p's debut, the principle change implemented was the addition of a second spider on the suspension to decrease the compliance and simply to make the driver more protected against abuse. After the first run, the surround material was changed from santoprene to NBR rubber in order to allow for greater adherance between the cone and the surround, as the santoprene did not react well with the glues we were using and the NBR offered a much better hold. Following that change, the size of the spiders and spacer ring between each spider was modified to allow for a bit of increased movement.

In practice, the RL-p's versus the traditional TC9 design offer a similar sound, but are more robust in their construction which allows them to take more abuse with largely decreased failure rates. If and when TC gets their direct sales operation in gear, I imagine they will also employ most of these modifications in their production units as well - at which point the two drivers will be nearly identical save for the cosmetics, but I'd like to think that I will offer more personable support and as always I pledge to do whatever is within my means to satisfy my customers. Afterall, this is my main business, whereas TC is involved with many different projects.

Run with the little guy! B)