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Anything wrong with doing so? For example, 8 16ohm mids for a 2ohm load vs 6 16ohm mids and 1 8ohm, also for a 2ohm load?

i don't think you can do that iv asked the same question and was told no

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Really? More power to the 8ohm? Please explain :)

The amp is 1700 @ 2ohm. So roughly 212w per mid if i go with 8 16ohms, or 248ish eacb if i go with 7 mids, one being 8ohm.

For 1700W there will be 58.31V applied to the circuit. And since you have all the mids wired in parallel the voltage will be the same across all the loads but current will be different. For the 16 ohm mids it would be 58.31/16 = 3.644375A, so 3.644375 X 58.31 = 212.50350625 W each. For the 8 ohm mid it would be 58.31/8 = 7.28875A, so 7.28875 X 58.31 = 425.0070125W. So each 16 ohm mid gets 212.5W andthe 8 ohm mid would get 425W.

What amp are you using?

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makes sense!

thanks!

amp is going to be a crescendo 2ch amp. i ordered 16 ohm 12's today, im going to have to send them back to PE to get the 8 ohm versions.

i WAS going to do 2 12s and 14 8s, for a total of 16 mids, 8 per amp at 2 ohm, and run all 16ohm mids.

but i cant fit the last 2 8's anywhere in my setup, so i have to ditch them, hence the reason for this thread (now only 7 mids per amp, so i need one 8 ohm to keep the overall load at 2ohms). good thing though, the 12's are rated for 400w rms, so if i go with the 8 ohm 12's, itll take the extra power. the 8's are only rated for 225 so that should be fine with 212.5 watts. (eminence delta 12 and eminence delta pro8, 16ohm)

Are you from Florida?

:roflmao:

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One last question to confirm.

What if i ran this instead:

2x 8ohm 12s and 4x 16ohm 8s. That'll still make 2ohm. How much power would each mid see then?

if you're set on using both sets of speakers just get a separate amp to run the 8ohm speakers, that way you at least get some gain control...for sq :-P

You "can" but the power distribution will be uneven and not controllable. You could manually pad the ones that are too bright, but that too will change the response of the full circuit. It is really advisable like everyone else has said to have a dedicated channel for each type of speaker. If you "have to" and "can only run that amp", considering your obvious lack of stage you could split them up and run mono. Just have to buy enough of each so that they will load the amps to their impedance in the right range. Then you'd keep level setting but lose all semblance of stereo, but I don't really expect you'll have much anyways. Not really something I'd recommend, but it is an option.

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You "can" but the power distribution will be uneven and not controllable. You could manually pad the ones that are too bright, but that too will change the response of the full circuit. It is really advisable like everyone else has said to have a dedicated channel for each type of speaker. If you "have to" and "can only run that amp", considering your obvious lack of stage you could split them up and run mono. Just have to buy enough of each so that they will load the amps to their impedance in the right range. Then you'd keep level setting but lose all semblance of stereo, but I don't really expect you'll have much anyways. Not really something I'd recommend, but it is an option.

what would the power be for each mid (1700 x1 @ 2 ohm) with 2 8ohm and 4 16ohm mids? just curious.

You "can" but the power distribution will be uneven and not controllable. You could manually pad the ones that are too bright, but that too will change the response of the full circuit. It is really advisable like everyone else has said to have a dedicated channel for each type of speaker. If you "have to" and "can only run that amp", considering your obvious lack of stage you could split them up and run mono. Just have to buy enough of each so that they will load the amps to their impedance in the right range. Then you'd keep level setting but lose all semblance of stereo, but I don't really expect you'll have much anyways. Not really something I'd recommend, but it is an option.

what would the power be for each mid (1700 x1 @ 2 ohm) with 2 8ohm and 4 16ohm mids? just curious.

Bromo worked it out above, but I'll walk you through the steps.

First, find the voltage.

sqrt(power * impedance) = voltage

sqrt(1700*2) = 58.31V

With parallel wiring, the voltage across the circuit is the same. So each speaker would receive 58.31V.

To figure out current to each speaker, divide the voltage by the resistance.

58.31 / 8 = 7.28A

58.31 / 16 = 3.64A

To find power, multiply the voltage and current:

58.31 * 7.28 = 425w

58.31 * 3.64 = 212.5w

So, each 8ohm mid would receive 425w, each 16ohm mid 212.5w.

Assuming that their specs are at all real.

Not sure why it matters though as I don't think that is really the information you are looking for. What I would expect you should be interested in is where to bandpass them such that you don't push them to their mechanical limit and then "hope that their spec is appropriate enough to keep them safe thermally. And then determine what that does when you mix the different impedance drivers. Of course your system is going to be bloodcurtling both in output and response, but you already know that. That being said the detail of what driver gets what power won't help that anyway.

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