February 21, 201312 yr I'm the same way. Don't like the full feeling. Can only eat two or three handfuls at a time. But I can eat every two hours.I trained my body to be that way, then it all went to hell. It's about activity level, adapting to needs, and being active.Our amounts of food were different though. I was in the 3500-7000 kcal level for 4-5 years. I burned off more than I ate though. I was losing pound after pound throughout the whole time. Sometimes i was gaining so much muscle it didnt make the scale move much thougb. I only weigh ~142, but this exact time last year I was 125! Holy shit! I haven't seen 142 since I was about 13. Even when I had cancer and lost all kinds of weight I only got down to ~160.Eating throughout the day actually boosts metabolism. Perhaps you should try 2-3 large meals a day to slow down your metabolism.Eating six small meals throughout the day, or 3 big meals will yield different metabolic rates throughout the day, but at the end of the day it's exactly the same. The thing that changes is the Thermic Effect of Food, which is the energy expended to digest and absorb the food. It's directly proportional to the amount of energy the food contains, 5-10% carb, 0-5% fat, 20-30% protein. Average those numbers together into 11.5%meal one 1000kcal, TEF: 115kcalmeal two 1000kcal, TEF: 115kcalmeal three 2000kcal, TEF: 230kcal4000kcal, total TEF: 460kcalmeal one 600kcal, TEF: 69kcalmeal two 600kcal, TEF: 69kcalmeal three 600kcal, TEF: 69kcalmeal four 600kcal, TEF: 69kcalmeal five 600kcal, TEF: 69kcalmeal six 600kcal, TEF: 69kcalmeal seven 400kcal, TEF: 46kcal4000kcal, total TEF: 460kcalAt the end of the day the same amount of energy was used, and the metabolism is the same.Now if one changed the composition of those meals than they could alter their metabolism somewhat, but that's getting into something else.At least that's what I learned in Bio. :shrugs:Interesting. The other factor in larger meals is the fact we cannot digest massive amounts of protein all in one setting. Same with fat. It just goes through the tube.Any idea on how much protein? I've heard people say 30g, but I don't believe that.Yeah actually. .. and it is highly dependant on insulin/igf/GH levels. After a work out I bet with some fast sugars you could put back 50-60 grams on the high end. Maybe more maybe less.As for average meals, if your metabolism and enzyme levels are good and high I would bet 40.
February 21, 201312 yr I'm the same way. Don't like the full feeling. Can only eat two or three handfuls at a time. But I can eat every two hours.I trained my body to be that way, then it all went to hell. It's about activity level, adapting to needs, and being active.Our amounts of food were different though. I was in the 3500-7000 kcal level for 4-5 years. I burned off more than I ate though. I was losing pound after pound throughout the whole time. Sometimes i was gaining so much muscle it didnt make the scale move much thougb. I only weigh ~142, but this exact time last year I was 125! Holy shit! I haven't seen 142 since I was about 13. Even when I had cancer and lost all kinds of weight I only got down to ~160.Eating throughout the day actually boosts metabolism. Perhaps you should try 2-3 large meals a day to slow down your metabolism.Eating six small meals throughout the day, or 3 big meals will yield different metabolic rates throughout the day, but at the end of the day it's exactly the same. The thing that changes is the Thermic Effect of Food, which is the energy expended to digest and absorb the food. It's directly proportional to the amount of energy the food contains, 5-10% carb, 0-5% fat, 20-30% protein. Average those numbers together into 11.5%meal one 1000kcal, TEF: 115kcalmeal two 1000kcal, TEF: 115kcalmeal three 2000kcal, TEF: 230kcal4000kcal, total TEF: 460kcalmeal one 600kcal, TEF: 69kcalmeal two 600kcal, TEF: 69kcalmeal three 600kcal, TEF: 69kcalmeal four 600kcal, TEF: 69kcalmeal five 600kcal, TEF: 69kcalmeal six 600kcal, TEF: 69kcalmeal seven 400kcal, TEF: 46kcal4000kcal, total TEF: 460kcalAt the end of the day the same amount of energy was used, and the metabolism is the same.Now if one changed the composition of those meals than they could alter their metabolism somewhat, but that's getting into something else.At least that's what I learned in Bio. :shrugs:Interesting. The other factor in larger meals is the fact we cannot digest massive amounts of protein all in one setting. Same with fat. It just goes through the tube.Any idea on how much protein? I've heard people say 30g, but I don't believe that.Yeah actually. .. and it is highly dependant on insulin/igf/GH levels. After a work out I bet with some fast sugars you could put back 50-60 grams on the high end. Maybe more maybe less.As for average meals, if your metabolism and enzyme levels are good and high I would bet 40.I'd be curious to see some studies on it. From an evolutionary perspective it just doesn't make sense. Kill an animal, eat a large portion, and only absorb a quarter of the energy. I know protein digestibility isn't 100% either.
February 21, 201312 yr That's gonna depend on the protien. Just bc your meal has 50 grams of protiens doesn't mean they are all digestible. For example corn, only about 60 percent of its protien is digestible.
February 21, 201312 yr That's gonna depend on the protien. Just bc your meal has 50 grams of protiens doesn't mean they are all digestible. For example corn, only about 60 percent of its protien is digestible.That too.
February 21, 201312 yr That is kind of miss guided Stefan. They would kill an animal and feas on frezh food all day and preserve the rest.That was when we statted killing big animals. Before that we rarely killed big animals as the work wasn't worth how much we would waste.
February 22, 201312 yr I'm the same way. Don't like the full feeling. Can only eat two or three handfuls at a time. But I can eat every two hours.I trained my body to be that way, then it all went to hell. It's about activity level, adapting to needs, and being active.Our amounts of food were different though. I was in the 3500-7000 kcal level for 4-5 years. I burned off more than I ate though. I was losing pound after pound throughout the whole time. Sometimes i was gaining so much muscle it didnt make the scale move much thougb. I only weigh ~142, but this exact time last year I was 125! Holy shit! I haven't seen 142 since I was about 13. Even when I had cancer and lost all kinds of weight I only got down to ~160. Eating throughout the day actually boosts metabolism. Perhaps you should try 2-3 large meals a day to slow down your metabolism.Eating six small meals throughout the day, or 3 big meals will yield different metabolic rates throughout the day, but at the end of the day it's exactly the same. The thing that changes is the Thermic Effect of Food, which is the energy expended to digest and absorb the food. It's directly proportional to the amount of energy the food contains, 5-10% carb, 0-5% fat, 20-30% protein. Average those numbers together into 11.5% meal one 1000kcal, TEF: 115kcalmeal two 1000kcal, TEF: 115kcalmeal three 2000kcal, TEF: 230kcal4000kcal, total TEF: 460kcal meal one 600kcal, TEF: 69kcalmeal two 600kcal, TEF: 69kcalmeal three 600kcal, TEF: 69kcalmeal four 600kcal, TEF: 69kcalmeal five 600kcal, TEF: 69kcalmeal six 600kcal, TEF: 69kcalmeal seven 400kcal, TEF: 46kcal4000kcal, total TEF: 460kcal At the end of the day the same amount of energy was used, and the metabolism is the same.Now if one changed the composition of those meals than they could alter their metabolism somewhat, but that's getting into something else. At least that's what I learned in Bio. :shrugs: I am speaking strictly from my personal experience. I have been on and off again for ~30 years. Perhaps it flies in the face of what you learned, but it has proven to work for me. I'm honestly not even going to try to dispute your info, I just wanted to share what has worked for me. Take from it what you will.
February 22, 201312 yr I've always heard 50-60g protein in a single mealIt's within the realm of reason for sure. Again depends on the source and your stomachs ability to digest.
February 22, 201312 yr I'm the same way. Don't like the full feeling. Can only eat two or three handfuls at a time. But I can eat every two hours.I trained my body to be that way, then it all went to hell. It's about activity level, adapting to needs, and being active.Our amounts of food were different though. I was in the 3500-7000 kcal level for 4-5 years. I burned off more than I ate though. I was losing pound after pound throughout the whole time. Sometimes i was gaining so much muscle it didnt make the scale move much thougb. I only weigh ~142, but this exact time last year I was 125! Holy shit! I haven't seen 142 since I was about 13. Even when I had cancer and lost all kinds of weight I only got down to ~160. Eating throughout the day actually boosts metabolism. Perhaps you should try 2-3 large meals a day to slow down your metabolism.Eating six small meals throughout the day, or 3 big meals will yield different metabolic rates throughout the day, but at the end of the day it's exactly the same. The thing that changes is the Thermic Effect of Food, which is the energy expended to digest and absorb the food. It's directly proportional to the amount of energy the food contains, 5-10% carb, 0-5% fat, 20-30% protein. Average those numbers together into 11.5% meal one 1000kcal, TEF: 115kcalmeal two 1000kcal, TEF: 115kcalmeal three 2000kcal, TEF: 230kcal4000kcal, total TEF: 460kcal meal one 600kcal, TEF: 69kcalmeal two 600kcal, TEF: 69kcalmeal three 600kcal, TEF: 69kcalmeal four 600kcal, TEF: 69kcalmeal five 600kcal, TEF: 69kcalmeal six 600kcal, TEF: 69kcalmeal seven 400kcal, TEF: 46kcal4000kcal, total TEF: 460kcal At the end of the day the same amount of energy was used, and the metabolism is the same.Now if one changed the composition of those meals than they could alter their metabolism somewhat, but that's getting into something else. At least that's what I learned in Bio. :shrugs: I am speaking strictly from my personal experience. I have been on and off again for ~30 years. Perhaps it flies in the face of what you learned, but it has proven to work for me. I'm honestly not even going to try to dispute your info, I just wanted to share what has worked for me. Take from it what you will.Word. I was just going off what I learned in my class--which wasn't always right. Side note: Of both eating habits which did you feel more satiated, or easier to eat less? From what I've read it seems eating less frequently w/ bigger meals is more satiating than multiple smaller meals throughout the day. I'm curious what you found since you've been doing it for a long time. Personally it holds true for me, which in this instance is good since I need all the help I can get. Edited February 22, 201312 yr by stefanhinote
February 22, 201312 yr That is kind of miss guided Stefan. They would kill an animal and feas on frezh food all day and preserve the rest.That was when we statted killing big animals. Before that we rarely killed big animals as the work wasn't worth how much we would waste.Partially, but 30g protein from meat is not that much--certainly less than an average steak don't you think?
February 22, 201312 yr I'm the same way. Don't like the full feeling. Can only eat two or three handfuls at a time. But I can eat every two hours.I trained my body to be that way, then it all went to hell. It's about activity level, adapting to needs, and being active.Our amounts of food were different though. I was in the 3500-7000 kcal level for 4-5 years. I burned off more than I ate though. I was losing pound after pound throughout the whole time. Sometimes i was gaining so much muscle it didnt make the scale move much thougb. I only weigh ~142, but this exact time last year I was 125! Holy shit! I haven't seen 142 since I was about 13. Even when I had cancer and lost all kinds of weight I only got down to ~160. Eating throughout the day actually boosts metabolism. Perhaps you should try 2-3 large meals a day to slow down your metabolism.Eating six small meals throughout the day, or 3 big meals will yield different metabolic rates throughout the day, but at the end of the day it's exactly the same. The thing that changes is the Thermic Effect of Food, which is the energy expended to digest and absorb the food. It's directly proportional to the amount of energy the food contains, 5-10% carb, 0-5% fat, 20-30% protein. Average those numbers together into 11.5% meal one 1000kcal, TEF: 115kcalmeal two 1000kcal, TEF: 115kcalmeal three 2000kcal, TEF: 230kcal4000kcal, total TEF: 460kcal meal one 600kcal, TEF: 69kcalmeal two 600kcal, TEF: 69kcalmeal three 600kcal, TEF: 69kcalmeal four 600kcal, TEF: 69kcalmeal five 600kcal, TEF: 69kcalmeal six 600kcal, TEF: 69kcalmeal seven 400kcal, TEF: 46kcal4000kcal, total TEF: 460kcal At the end of the day the same amount of energy was used, and the metabolism is the same.Now if one changed the composition of those meals than they could alter their metabolism somewhat, but that's getting into something else. At least that's what I learned in Bio. :shrugs: I am speaking strictly from my personal experience. I have been on and off again for ~30 years. Perhaps it flies in the face of what you learned, but it has proven to work for me. I'm honestly not even going to try to dispute your info, I just wanted to share what has worked for me. Take from it what you will.Word. I was just going off what I learned in my class--which wasn't always right. Side note: Of both eating habits which did you feel more satiated, or easier to eat less? From what I've read it seems eating less frequently w/ bigger meals is more satiating than multiple smaller meals throughout the day. I'm curious what you found since you've been doing it for a long time. Personally it holds true for me, which in this instance is good since I need all the help I can get. If I am eating more frequently I always feel hungry. I have found very heavy intake of protein in a large meal keeps me full for long periods of time. Conversely, it seems if I munch all day I am always hungry. I even tend to eat in the middle of the night if I am eating multiple meals all day.
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