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So in the mail, I gots a package... I went over to mom's to get it since I don't trust my neighbors... lol. Long story short... I stalked the UPS page since I was given my tracking number last night by Mark... I called out of work to enjoy a long riding day and wasted alot of gas.. Not only is the Icon a beast, I have to back down on the output so that I can hear my interiors properly.. I had a SHYT-ton of pictures and videos but my stupid Android ROM gheyed on me and didn't save anything from today at all... So I pulled out the Cannon from the attic and will have some tomorrow. The sub not only gets low, but it can keep up with all the notes.. I tried some killer rock, rap, r&b, and some latin stuff from my old HDD.. Luckily I have USB input on my HU so all I had to do was copy and past the music. I now want another one. Don't need it, can't really afford it.. But I think I'm gonna be placing an order for a second one soon... yummy in my tummy.. Feelin' all that clear and hard bass makes me smile!! Hopefully Bangin' can hook me up with a real amp one day and I won't have to babysit my Icon with the JL 500/1 ... lol

but here are some links i found back in the day! the first one is easier to understand for me since i am in school for this type of thing http://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/showthread.php?t=16014 the second one has a bunch of stuff http://forums.makezine.com/comments.php?DiscussionID=2316

I also found this but it seems to have a limit of a 2 amp draw but you can check iit out here: http://www.oznium.com/cathode-music

The "true" definition as "sound quality" would best be described as: an accurate reproduction of the source material in every respect. If one's goal were "true" sound quality, then their goal for their system would be to reproduce all aspects of the source material as accurately as possible. What most people actually mean when they say "sound quality" is not accurate reproduction of the source material but rather their subjective personal preference for what constitutes good sound. They want a system that sounds good to them, even if it isn't completely accurate to the original source (the easiest example would be those who enjoy exaggerated subbass). That doesn't make their goal wrong.....certainly the goal of any system should be, first and foremost, to achieve maximum enjoyment for the primary listener. But they do use the wrong word to describe what it is they are looking to achieve with their system. They are mistating their goals. Sound quality, and what someone perceives as good sound based on their personal subjective preference, are not synonymous and interchangeable ideas....but unfortunately that's how they're used. Not necessarily. There are certainly valid reasons to use a ported enclosure in a system designed primarily for accurate reproduction of the source material.....another large misconception is that ported enclosures are only for those who don't care about "sound quality". But it would depend on your reasons for wanting to use a ported enclosure. Although, rather an go into more details about why, I think you'd be better off to not to assign a label to your system and just go for what you like regardless of what term might be used to describe that. Too many factors at play to say one way or the other. It will more than likely sound different, subjectively whether it's a good or bad difference is going to depend on the listener and the overall goals for the system.

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I would look into the P/E reference line before the Goldwoods. The price is higher, but would be worth it. Also, look into all the Tympany buyouts P/E has been pushing. More than likely better than the Goldwoods. I have also used Goldwoods, in fact alot of them. They have always worked well for the price, but just keep in mind the prices... If you really want to look into some budget drivers, check out Zaph Audio. He has reviewed tons of drivers, many very cheap, and can give you honest reviews and measurements....

Agreed. At the price point for their "best" drivers, you can have even better drivers from Dayton, Peerless, Scan, Seas, etc. The Silver Flute comment disappoints me. I did not find their drivers very good at all. I tried them when they first came out several years ago, and if they are comparable to the Hybrid drivers, then the Hybrid drivers are over-priced junk in my opinion.

I run my Shiva-X infinite baffle. Those Eclipse subs are good subs. I had a quartet of 88120DVC's about a decade ago. They are TC Sounds TC7 based subwoofers. The Shiva-X2 has more Xmax, lower inductance, higher rated power handling, and more than likely a more linear motor. It also has a slightly higher Qts and it's Fs is a little more than a half octave lower than the 88120DVC, which means the Shiva-X will have much better low frequency extension/low frequency output than the 88120's in sealed enclosures, and it's higher Xmax means it has the potential for more overall output. On the flip side, the Shiva's Vas is larger and is going to need a larger volume sealed enclosure to reach a given Qtc than the Eclipse. The Eclipse would really be more at home in a ported enclosure. In ported enclosures of similar size the Shiva would have probably have better low frequency extension although if placed in an Eclipse-sized ported enclosure the response would potentially be a little more peaky and it's transient response probably a little worse than the Eclipse. And, again, the Shiva would need a larger sized enclosure to reach equivalent alignments.

As requested.............. Pics of the subs I washed her up today and will clean the inside and take some new pics and hopefully make a video for you guys. I am still playing around with the settings, but I am loving this set up. Damn loud and sounds very good if I say so myself.

alright, i should have updated this sooner, but anyway here are some pics of the aero ports i have added so far. they are 4" psp aeros and will be tuned to 29 hz. i decided to go with 3 aeros instead of 4 because 3 4" aeros give me almost exactly 16^2 inches of port area and also because the ports will already be cut to length to get a 29 hz tuning ftw! and just the side project i have been working on during this whole build.first time i have ever used veneer and a wood finish like this. tell me what yo think, ill be putting a build log of my ht system here when its all done. and for the price, these are some of the most amazing woofers i have ever used well thats it for now, ill put up some pics of my big 3 as i have not done so yet.

So thanksgiving is coming soon which means no school for us who are still in it! Which for me means being bored out of my mind. I also just so happen to have 500 blue LED's handy. Out of all the things i could do with them, i decided to see what it would be like to put a bunch of them in the back of my explorer! For getting power to them, i was thinking about wiring them up in groups of series and then connecting them directly to the speaker wire input on the SAZ-3000d. Since i don't know nearly enough about that, i was curious as to whether that's a good idea or not (whether it will break something or not!). So the idea is that when the bass is really loud, the amp produces more voltage which i'll have the groups of LED's wired in series so that when the amp hits that voltage associated with loud bass, the LED's will light up! That's the general idea. I don't know the current draw of the LED's... i know for LED"s in general it's extremely low. But there will be around 480 led's back there.. So will this work at all? Essentially i'm daisy chaining groups of around 7 led's together and then running the positive and negative of those into the amp where the speaker wire plugs in. I also want this to happen while the speaker is hooked up to the amp as well. If this ends up being way too difficult then i'll just hook them up to the secondary battery with a on/off switch. I can solder, but i do not know how to make circuit boards. let me know if i need to input any more information. Thanks!

Therefore it's better? Bad assumption. From what I've seen and read, only a handful of people have the VVXs. Your best bet is to pm some of those people and ask them their opinion. Check out the Skar area for build logs and such. Couldn't hurt.