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Stop taking things emotionally and personally and read objectively it will really help this conversation No one has ever ridiculed or insulted any of you other than your silly approach of saying it sounds the best to me so therefore these are the greatest speakers since sliced bread. Instead please respond for ONCE without any subjective nonsense which in your whole post you again forgot to do Um, you can't analyze one spec but only the set. As for showing what they do "free-air" they will actually show what they will do in any environment as long as that environment is known. I've offered and asked now three times for someone to show where this isn't the case but no one in the subjective camp has anything to say about that. Considering this is the case, there is another SIMPLE question you could answer. Ask Ray how he designed specifically for "dynamics, realism, and that "I was there live" feeling one gets when listening to a musical passage" when he designed the drivers. This would be some scientific input we would all really love to hear. Perfect, please share how this design was developed and what was done to make this happen. That would be stellar. As for the second portion of the quote, no one on here would ever recommend 24 speakers and that bs which is rather obvious from tons of other threads on the forum. Stop, again NO ONE on here cares what you think about how your car sounds. This isn't a knock on your hearing, but the fact that the subjective nature of that response is nonsense. There are tons of us that could easily say the same about our vehicles but you don't see that happening now do you? The only ones in the pissing contest seem to be in your camp, we are not competing with that as we surely don't believe in it. There is really only one way to be helpful and you haven't. Answer Impious or my questions. If you don't know how or can't ask for clarification. Since you seem rather convinced these were designed to be musical and ... then share the design process of how that was done. The only reason you could be taking any of this as insulting is if you are reacting emotionally to the fact that your subjective opinion matters not. Silly thing to get insulted over. As for understanding specifications, we'd be glad to help but there seems to be a disconnect in your understanding completely. As a whole they will describe EXACTLY what a driver will do in ANY environment so you can imagine the complexity of your answer. As a primer, pick up a copy of Vance Dickason's book, Loudspeaker Design Cookbook and read it. Once you absorb that it will make answering your question VERY easy Again, there is only one way to make this thread something we can learn from and it is for your camp to share something objective. IE, not subjective, not emotional and not about what YOU have heard. Instead share Ray's design process, his testing process, how he has tweaked standard driver design to do what he has done. So far we have no details AT ALL on the driver other than what we can see from the pictures and pricing and on the surface the two do not make sense together. Let me give you one other bit of insight. Basically everyone who reads this thread is getting a really bad picture of Blues, and not at all from Impious or my responses but from yours. I am sure that without answering our very simple questions you guys are doing a really good job of destroying potential customers instead of helping yourselves. This is the internet, people don't buy on emotion that they aren't connected to and that is ALL that you guys are sharing. For the sake of this forum, your company, and rudimentary science please stop. I'd love to see you guys post something useful and challenge you to try as so far it has just been one heck of a mess. Please prove me wrong. And again, don't take this personally. I have nothing against any of you and actually at this point am just amused at the stubbornness, but I do look forward to a real response.

First, you need to learn how to operate spell check. If you aren't already using it, download Firefox.....has spell check built in. Works great. I originally wasn't going to respond as at this point we're . Blues guys aren't saying anything new, important, or informative.......just keep regurgitating the same useless babble, but since I need an excuse to maintain my procrastination of putting up Xmas decorations...... I do. For several reasons. There's far more to it than this, but just briefly.......First, if I find something pleasing to the ear, I'd like to know why. It will help me in the future find other products that I'll quite possibly also find enjoyable if they share similar qualities. On that note, having quantified performance parameters is the only way to objectively compare speakers. I can't buy a pair of every speaker I'd ever like to try out.....being able to compare them objectively allows us to narrow product selection possibilities without having to sample every speaker in person, which is literally impossible. Subjective comparisons are quite literally useless. If I'm going to make a suggestion to someone regarding product selection or consider a product for my own use, I'm certainly not going to do it based on someone else's subjective analysis....Also, if I know some objective information about a speaker, I'll know more about it's limits and limitations, the proper implementation of the driver and in what situations or circumstances it would or would not be a good fit. You're right. But that doesn't mean we can't learn anything from the objective measurements we make. We can do a pretty good job of describing the performance of a loudspeaker and how it will perform (and as a result, sound) with a comprehensive set of objective measurements. Whether or not someone will like that sound and how they will describe that sound is completely subjective and will vary from person to person. What one person subjectively enjoys another may not. So what use are ears when describing or comparing speakers? Who's ears should we use to make these determinations, since my ears and your ears are not going to be the same? Who is the golden eared standard? See below. If you understand the numbers on the piece of paper, those will tell you far more about a speaker than a hundred subjective listeners. Subjective listeners are subject to several variables which makes their listening experience quite useless to me (and anyone else). They are subject to mood, bias, personal preference, and a host of other issues including the scenario and environment in which their experience occurred. No one with subjective experience can tell me more about a speakers performance than a comprehensive set of objective measurements. No one is golden eared enough to qualify as an authoritative source based on subjective experience. Which is a nice thing about objective comparisons.......they can be reliably compared to other measurements made under the same circumstances. Run the software and compare it to predictions or other measurements......if they match up, results are reliable. What? It's like you're just throwing out some terms in hopes of sounding intelligent. For example, you don't think it's possible to compare the linearity of two different motor designs? Then maybe you are one of the subjective listeners who doesn't enjoy speakers that measure well. Maybe you like distortion, maybe you like uneven frequency response, etc. Hence one of the reasons subjective opinions are useless.....you might not like the same performance as I do. Which makes your opinion of something useless for my purposes. But what if we had a way to objectively describe the type of sound you prefer? Wouldn't that be handy! It would take some of the guesswork out of selecting products. Match up the drivers with objective measurements that align well with your objectively defined preference for "good sound", and you'd have a much easier time finding products that meet up with your goals. It seems the only people offering opinions so far are those that have heard the speakers......so I'm not sure why the Blues guys keep saying this? YOU ARE THE ONLY ONES. The rest of us would be interested in more information about the speakers. Or, if someone wants to send me a pair I'd be more than happy to offer my own subjective opinions of the speakers, since that seems to be the only thing that matters to the Blues guys. Please do not compare them to any other speakers. Hearing or owning a product does not qualify someone in and of itself to make any sort of valid comparison against any other product. In many cases, it doesn't qualify someone to make a valid description of the performance of the product itself depending up on type of experience the user has. People think because they have some subjective experience with a product it qualifies them to make absolute authoritative statements about a product....which is absolutely false. And accepting the opinion of an egotistical wad who spouts nothing but subjective opinions and apparently doesn't even understand objective measurements and their use is somehow better? No, in fact it would be far worse. Anyone with even the vaguest understanding of the usefulness of objectivity would be better off to base their decisions on objective information rather than others subjective rubbish. And since you can't seem to grasp this concept.....no one else has commented on their performance. quote=whodat: "Only people that have heard them are capable of making an informed deciision and opinion on if they are good or not". Not the case at all. Listening to a speaker in no way confirms someone as an authoritative source on the performance of a loudspeaker. Certainly they are free to state an opinion, but anyone else would be foolish to accept that opinion as anything other than a single subjective opinion.....and it's certainly not a definitive statement of performance or characteristics. What I may think as "good" you might think sucks, and vise versa. quote=whodat: "Here is aqoute from another thread on this site about the products" I don't care. Nobody here cares except the Blues guys who have taken up the untenable position that subjective opinions matter. Though I really don't know why I'm still wasting my time with this thread, as even if you do respond it will be another worthless attempt to attribute some value to subjectivity when in this case none exists. (had to format those last two quotes differently as I had reached the maximum number of quotes allowed in a single post)

This thread is the most inaccurate info ever. Start from the top. To the OP. If your using a 700rms amp, two X's will be fine, just set gains. There's a sticky in the amp section if you don't know how. Now to the rest of the idiots. Don't reply if you have any doubt your info may not be correct. Your making noobs EVEN dumber cause your a noob. Idiots, I swear.

got bored and figured this should help some Cuts: Top & Bottom - 28" x 28" Left side - 28" x 15.5" Right Side - 27.25" x 15.5" Back - 26.5" x 15.5" Front - 22.75" x 15.5" Port L1 - 22" x 15.5" Port L2 - 11.5" x 15.5"

Keep the gain down and you will not blow them.. Just don't be a nut behind the volume knob.

Have you taken impedance drop due to playing below tuning into consideration? No, No, No. and one more No.