see, your automatically assuming i dont have the room for 4 12's.. no i dont want just 2 12's...i have 2 15's right now and i want 4 12's. i have the room and i have the electrical to back it up, so i see no real reason to go with 2 12's which would be a downgrade from what i have. fyi i have 11-12 cubes to work with.. the sa-12''s will require 2 cubes each..so i have 3 cubes for port and sub displacements, and bracing which will consist of 1 1/4 inch wooden dowels which hardly take up any space btw this is an extended cab dakota. im walling it. aww i see now what you are going to do! i guess i should have asked what kind a space you had available and what vehicle you were going into first! and if you were going to do a wall or not lol got ya now wall away! and also i did assume because you didn't tell us/me off the get go what was going on! and since you siad you didn't have room for a BIG battery in the back i assume you didn't have much in the way of room for the subs! hell isn't the hc600 like 4x6x5 size wise? yeah i guess it was my fault for not giving all of the details...this is how its gonna work, im wallling it, and infront of the box on my false floor is where my amps are... there is one in front of the box behind my drivers seat and one in front of my box behind the passenger seat, and the only place i could fit a battery is behind the center colsole infront of the box. there is no room on the sides for anything. but i was toying around with the idea of making a weather proof box in my bed for like 2-3 more batteries, i dunno if i want to get that crazy or not.. cause i do use the bed of my truck for hauling around my atv and whatnot