You're supposed to think you should not have ordered something from Kevin@ Skar. laughter HA! I'm pretty pleased with the VVX subs but the box he sent me is garbage, total pos. I had to seal it up myself (there was no sealant at all and some one-eighth or slightly bigger gaps on nearly every joint), terminal cup is barely held in, port sucks (1" wide) and the baffle flexes like crazy even with 300 rms subs in it getting maybe 100-150 watts each. I have no doubt the subs are good. Jacob designed them, so they're an extension of him. Kevin wouldn't have a clue on subwoofer design. He's a douche, always will be. When you scam people several times, get busted on it every time and still don't have the steelies to man up, you're worthless, and then you still continue to be a douche.