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Yes the grills from parts-express will work, i use them on my Neo 8s.

That comparison can be used for any manufacturer. Exactly, but not all have triple digit percentage mark up's. Crescendo has triple digit percentage marks ups? I have owned Crescendo products. I have also delt with their customer service. From my experience their products perform as intended and when I needed contact customer support thier response was timely and helpful. I have nothing bad to say about Crescendo products or Crescendoas a company. This isnt based hersay or speculation but rather from my experience. When you get in the industry, you know what other people pay for things. As is common knowledge, the chinese products are FAR cheaper than the States, and yes, some of their products yield triple digit markups. Now, they may have more overhead or other things to pay for, hence their pricing structure, but they are still paying less. You would be surprised to see the build cost on some products. Amplifiers and speakers can easily be built for under $20 and sold for hundreds. It's the way of the world. I spent a while building alternators and if you know how much you could build your own alt for, you would NEVER give your money to any manufacturer.

New and unique means expensive and people are cheap bastards. They won't sell. Simple as that. Why make something that only a few people want (niche) unless you have a bunch of money to blow? Now with that out of the way, there is absolutely NO need for anything unique in the amplifier world. How about a standalone processor cheap enough for the masses so we can get back to pure gain blocks and none of the other BS with amps now. Keep the processing in the processors and the amplification in the amplifiers.

Ok guys, here are my parameters: - My sister, brother-in-law and I are pitching into get a little TV for my mother to use in the kitchen when she is cooking or doing projects - My mother wants us to keep the budget under $200 as she is not really kicking-back to watch movies with it - She would prefer a flat screen around 19" - I don't want to buy a junker from Walmart So I am putting this out there to see if anyone knows of a better deal on line. Newegg has a few options, but wanted to use the power of the forum base to see if I can find better. Thanks guys.

Why do you want a Sundown amp? DC Audio or Crescendo amps FTW. Why so many batteries? You have a HO alt(sorry to hear it is DC Power). BTW 5.0K on two 12's is overkill by a long shot for a music/daily setup.

I can put 15's ... but it has to be a really small box that isnt even spec'd for the sub.....the problem is the dodge chargers trunk opening its so small. how do you know the box will be too small....????? i thought this was a sub choice topic....

Why do you want a Sundown amp? DC Audio or Crescendo amps FTW. Why so many batteries? You have a HO alt(sorry to hear it is DC Power). BTW 5.0K on two 12's is overkill by a long shot for a music/daily setup. lol im just trying to be loud and the batteries.....was just trying to make sure I have minimal voltage drop... If you have current draw that is exceeding your alternator's output you will have voltage drop regardless of the amount of batteries used. Multiple batteries are worthless unless you plan on driving around at 12V or playing your system with the car off. Why do you want a Sundown amp? DC Audio or Crescendo amps FTW. Why so many batteries? You have a HO alt(sorry to hear it is DC Power). BTW 5.0K on two 12's is overkill by a long shot for a music/daily setup. He probably wants to match the subs with the amp. BTW how is 5k overkill? His electrical will probably support it. OP Look at some SSA Zcons. Very nice from what I've been told. Nah man, you need more than a 250a alt to support a solid 5k amp. Nobody needs 5k for a music/daily setup. I dont care WHO you are. OVERKILL.

Why do you want a Sundown amp? DC Audio or Crescendo amps FTW. Why so many batteries? You have a HO alt(sorry to hear it is DC Power). BTW 5.0K on two 12's is overkill by a long shot for a music/daily setup. lol im just trying to be loud and the batteries.....was just trying to make sure I have minimal voltage drop... If you have current draw that is exceeding your alternator's output you will have voltage drop regardless of the amount of batteries used. Multiple batteries are worthless unless you plan on driving around at 12V or playing your system with the car off. Why do you want a Sundown amp? DC Audio or Crescendo amps FTW. Why so many batteries? You have a HO alt(sorry to hear it is DC Power). BTW 5.0K on two 12's is overkill by a long shot for a music/daily setup. He probably wants to match the subs with the amp. BTW how is 5k overkill? His electrical will probably support it. OP Look at some SSA Zcons. Very nice from what I've been told. Nah man, you need more than a 250a alt to support a solid 5k amp. Nobody needs 5k for a music/daily setup. I dont care WHO you are. OVERKILL. thats an opinion NOTHING more. ....and? and you keep pushing the issue like its a fact... and its not... so why do you keep saying it... and then adding things like "and i dont care who you are" ..... its an opinion.. leave it at that. ......and? Yeah it is MY opinion. I've stated that once it that reply, fucktard.

To support a 5k amp you need more than a 250a. You know this. Why would you, or anybody, buy a 5K amp and not plan on using it? Just to say oyu have it?

To support a 5k amp you need more than a 250a. You know this. Why would you, or anybody, buy a 5K amp and not plan on using it? Just to say oyu have it? I never mentioned not using it. Realistically if your playing music, the impedance in the circuit will be varying all the time, so you won't be drawing the max current 24/7. Between his alternator and his battery reserve, he should not have an issue with voltage drop hurting anything. Sure he'll likely experience some slight voltage drop, but that doesn't mean his batteries will go dead, he'll get stuck on the side of the road, or his ecu will fry. There is a misconception that I as pointing out. Battery reserve has NOTHING to do with voltage drop when the vehicle is on and when you are trying to prevent it from happening. The alternator(s) supply the +14V. Batteries, for a 14V system, rest at +12V. Once the current demand exceeds the output capabilities of the alternator voltage will drop. Period, the end. No if and's or but's about it, 250a inst enough for a daily setup on a 5k amp (this does not even mention the vehicle's electrical demands or other amplifiers used in the system) And if it is than your 5K amp is.....wait for it.....overkill. Maybe for some people driving around at 12V is ok

im done with this motherfucker.

yea this guy is running 3 sa 12's on a 4500 and i think his box is 6 cubes? and i run 2 sundown nightshade 15s in 6 cubes.... that was my point by saying who said 15's wont work in smaller encloses .it depends on the sub.. nightshades seems to like smaller encloses. oh and btw i run almost 5k daily... thinking about doubling up...