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Sean probably has more knowledge in the actual physics of acoustics in one fucking finger than 90% of the members on this forum combined. I shall comment no further as it is pointless to try to reason with the unreasonable.

Thats to bad I think they make nice work or golf shirts.

Was on a mobile device earlier. Can respond to this a bit better now. Let us see what is closed minded here. The guy who defends something that some marketing propaganda promotes or in this case me. Some history for you. In 1993, I took a 2 week independent study in college. Working as a sound engineer at the time I wanted a tuner that not only investigated tune but distortion and profiling of instruments and microphones. Steps in programming were. Write a tuner to determine both amplitude and frequency. Calculate the distortion. Unlike the POS that Steve sells, my code actually would measure all harmonics (limited by bandwidth of the acquisition card nyquist of course). It could do this on any arbitrary input as well, not some fixed frequency. Program was freely distributed on the web for years. I tried to discuss the algorithm with Steve, he grabbed his "design engineer" and neither could answer rudimentary questions. That is why he ran from here. Knew that they had overlooked a ton and didn't want it to be exposed where edits weren't in his power. In my lab, I have a suite of Bruel & Kjaer acoustic analyzing equipment that exceeds $100k in value. Also have a $60k Nicollet oscilloscope which measures harmonics out beyond 1GHz. Add to that a 3D scanning laser vibrometer that makes the Klippel look like a home brewed piece of shit. I could use ANY of it for setting gains. What do I use? My ear. Sounds pretty closed minded doesn't it?

21 business days is what they say. I don't know if they're back to that yet. Says it right when you buy it. http://store.soundsolutionsaudio.com/products/mayhem-12-ascendant-audio-12-2500w-mayhem-series-subwoofer.html

Lol...whatever man, the fact that you would discredit someone with as much knowledge as Sean has shows how "closed minded" that YOU are.You like the KoolAid huh?

Why don't you have polo shirts?

man I've never seen a forum that's so against using pro audio in a car lol.....seems like when it's brought up people just get slammed

I loved my XCONs.

Never owned a xcon but I've heard a few. Great woofers. However, one of my favorite woofers is the Fi Q. They sound fantastic and still get loud. I was metering a 144.x on the dash on a sundown 2k. Worth a look imo.

Don't calculate with the published xmax. Calculate with 25mm which is the approximate coil overhang. Will do thank you. These subs are supposedly great. I plan to get some xcons or icons soon! Depends on my budget but Im sure you wouldn't be disappointed with the xcons!

You are a wolf my friend.... LOL thanks ricksi. As far as the topic of this thread... you don't know more than Sean and Brad, and you probably never will. These are my go to problem solvers and their knowledge BAFFLES me. Don't bother arguing with them unless you seriously, seriously know your shit. Sean says

you do understand you build a hand built to order sub right?

Mexican moving day in AZ. J AKA Sunday on I-19.

Mexican moving day in AZ. J

Deft Sanding Sealer

He's always sort of made a "profit" by misleading noobs. That's how he built his name and got popular, by misleading noobs. Once he was popular he commercialize it to cash in (like any fart smeller would).

Might be they just got really busy. Don't worry, SSA is always on their game.

You gotta give more info than that. How in the hell is anyone going to be able to tell you anything. What vehicle? What kinda power? What do you want to accomplish? Give some details if you want a useful answer

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Nope, I mentioned it, I also mentioned that I still have to put it in mine.

Hopefully no one as that is a stupid way to set your gains. Of course if you read the thread you'd understand that. Umm, no. It's a POS that does nothing useful. I've even thrown out the challenge to Steve himself to offer up when it could be useful and he ran away and only wanted to discuss where he could edit or remove posts. I had no problems with Steve until he started to profit from misleading noobs. That sucks. Anyone who does that deserves no respect. As for the DD-1, what job is it that it does "well"? Fucking sucks for gain setting. I realize you learn the hard way, but come on. Don't close your eyes to thinking. You can ruin stuff with any settings. Your choices make no sense. Train your ear. It will greatly improve everything. And things can go way wrong before measured distortion too. Amusingly the DD-1 nor a scope can measure distortion. Ok, sure $50k Nicollet scopes can but I don't think we are discussing those here.Your methods lead to the same conclusion. If you don't take the time to train your ear and to actually listen then your shit can fail. Use your ears, teach your ears, enjoy your stuff, don't blindly do something idiotic. I can hear just fine. My methods make sense if you put 2 and 2 together. The levels music is recorded at varies greatly. With my smaller setups, it was much easier to detect audible distortion. But I'm not running "smaller" setups anymore. Also everyone is leading off track, this has to do with gain setting, nothing else. We're not talking about other components failing. Just one part. Stop weaseling the conversation in direction that benefit your argument, which is not the actual topic itself. So many of these topics get skewed because some of you try soooooo damn hard to be 100% right. When you're not. There's other methods. Except that and move on. Way too much closed minded thinking. If you constantly shun away other ideas, you'll never better yourself. There's no point in reading all the replies honestly. Over half are bitching about Steve. I swear it's like talking with democrats in here. Everything turns into ripping someone else down and basically calling their ideas bull shit. And why on earth would Steve accept a challenge from you? Cause you're "mr SSA tech team" You're like a pringles can of bull shit.